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https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-15-3429-2015
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-15-3429-2015
Research article
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28 Mar 2015
Research article |  | 28 Mar 2015

Total sulfate vs. sulfuric acid monomer concenterations in nucleation studies

K. Neitola, D. Brus, U. Makkonen, M. Sipilä, R. L. Mauldin III, N. Sarnela, T. Jokinen, H. Lihavainen, and M. Kulmala

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A discrepancy of 2 orders of magnitude was found between the measured sulfuric acid monomer concentration and total sulfate, when measured with independent methods (mass spectrometry and ion chromatography) with the same source of sulphuric acid vapor. The ion chromatography method produces the exact concentrations predicted by empirical equations, and the mass spectrometry method shows significantly lower values. The discrepancy is investigated thoroughly from different points of views.
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