Articles | Volume 26, issue 19
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-26-14277-2026
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Characterizing lightning NOx production in the Ebro Valley with meteosat 12 LI and LMA observations
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AR by Francisco Javier Perez-Invernon on behalf of the Authors (01 Oct 2026)
The paper describes a study to characterise NOx production from lightning in a specific region and time frame using various ground- and space-based instrumentation which is supported by various modelling and calculation techniques. The paper is incredibly detailed and clearly outlines all aspects of the study, although some further illustrations/schematics would be helpful as certain parts (particularly the method) can become confusing without something to refer too.
The inclusion of uncertainties is important, particularly as the research is essentially trying to cross-reference various measurements, and it relies on some basic assumptions which may not necessarily be true (although this is mitigated to some extent). Lightning phenomena varies widely across the world, and this one specific study in this location may not be representative of other types of storm systems / lightning cells elsewhere – It may be worth discussing how this could relate to other similar systems or regions? It is, however, a very good step forwards and a very interesting and comprehensive study.
A few minor specific comments:
Ln 14-15: The way the references are included here are a little confusing; one from 1947 (a book I cannot fully access) and another from 2007, with the sentence suggesting that NOx from lightning has, over a period of 60 years, stayed relatively stable at about 10%. But this is not true as, currently, human-made NOx sources are at around 70-80% but would not have been this high in the 1940s (the absolute amount of NOx from lightning may not have changed, but the percentage will have). Maybe some recognition that the 10% is just what the LNOx split is now but that, years ago, it likely had a much bigger split.
Ln 96: There is a large amount of text describing the methodology in great detail, but it may be helpful to include a schematic illustrating the ground-based networks and satellites used as a ‘quick reference’ – particularly as so many are mentioned and it is quite hard to understand exactly what data is associated with each specific instrument. This extends to including maps with the specific latitude and longitude ranges used both for the case study and from the modelling perspective.
Ln 257: I can understand where the 311 moles of NO per flash has come from, but does the study not distinguish / can it not distinguish between CG and IC flashes? There is also an over-simplification in the reference quoted here (Price, 1997) – 1112 for CG is just ten times 111.2 for IC; it is quite an old reference which has been observed to be incorrect (and there are some recent publications on this). I appreciate that this is just utilising a number for a model, and that if it is incorrect, it is an incorrectness which is carried through and so relative comparisons can be made.