Articles | Volume 25, issue 6
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-25-3623-2025
© Author(s) 2025. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
Modulation of the northern polar vortex by the Hunga Tonga–Hunga Ha'apai eruption and the associated surface response
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- Final revised paper (published on 27 Mar 2025)
- Preprint (discussion started on 26 Aug 2024)
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Comment types: AC – author | RC – referee | CC – community | EC – editor | CEC – chief editor
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CC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-1909', Simon Lee, 29 Aug 2024
- CC2: 'Reply on CC1', Amy Butler, 29 Aug 2024
- AC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-1909', Ales Kuchar, 05 Sep 2024
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-1909', Anonymous Referee #1, 13 Sep 2024
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AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Ales Kuchar, 22 Nov 2024
- AC4: 'Correction to AC1', Ales Kuchar, 22 Nov 2024
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AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Ales Kuchar, 22 Nov 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-1909', Anonymous Referee #2, 15 Sep 2024
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AC3: 'Reply on RC2', Ales Kuchar, 22 Nov 2024
- AC5: 'Correction to AC2', Ales Kuchar, 22 Nov 2024
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AC3: 'Reply on RC2', Ales Kuchar, 22 Nov 2024
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AR by Ales Kuchar on behalf of the Authors (22 Nov 2024)
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ED: Publish as is (10 Jan 2025) by Rolf Müller
ED: Publish as is (16 Jan 2025) by Peter Haynes (Executive editor)
AR by Ales Kuchar on behalf of the Authors (26 Jan 2025)
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Beginning on L116, the authors state "For the first time since records began in the mid 20th century, three SSW-like events have been detected during the extended winter 2023/2024. Ineson et al. (2024), using a large model ensemble, showed that such event series has a return period of about 250 years". There are several major problems with such a statement. First, what constitutes an "SSW-like" event, versus the extensively-defined and rigorously-tested definitions of major SSWs? If the authors do wish to claim that three "SSW-like" events happened for the first time, then they would need to provide evidence (and indeed, go to quite some effort to justify their definition of 'SSW-like events' versus the existing definitions of actual major SSWs). So, I can only assume that the authors are conflating whatever their "SSW-like" events are, with records of major SSWs... according to all published criteria used to define major SSWs , winter 2023/2024 saw only TWO major events. It is indeed correct to say that no observed winter has seen three major SSWs, but one cannot then use that in the context of discussing whatever an "SSW-like" event is! Furthermore, the analysis undertaken by the cited Ineson et al. (2024) paper use the well-defined classification criteria for major SSWs. Thus, one cannot then use their results – which are specifically about major SSWs – to then talk about "SSW-like" events. This is immensely confusing and risks generating hype about the SSWs in 2023/2024 that is entirely unfounded.