Articles | Volume 24, issue 4
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-24-2319-2024
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Contrail formation on ambient aerosol particles for aircraft with hydrogen combustion: a box model trajectory study
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- Final revised paper (published on 22 Feb 2024)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1321', Anonymous Referee #1, 21 Jul 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1321', Anonymous Referee #1, 21 Jul 2023
- AC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1321', Simon Unterstrasser, 19 Dec 2023
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RC3: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1321', Anonymous Referee #2, 20 Aug 2023
- AC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1321', Simon Unterstrasser, 19 Dec 2023
- AC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1321', Simon Unterstrasser, 19 Dec 2023
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AR by Simon Unterstrasser on behalf of the Authors (19 Dec 2023)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (10 Jan 2024) by Farahnaz Khosrawi
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EA: Adjustments approved (22 Feb 2024) by Farahnaz Khosrawi
This is an excellent and timely analysis of the expected contrail behavior from an aviation gas turbine engine burning H2 fuel. There is increasing interest in this topic as H2 is being considered as a potential, longer-term solution to the problem of burning of fossil fuels by aviation. There are many questions and issues to adopting H2 fuels, but the changes in contrail properties are correctly identified by the authors as a key one, since contrails are such an important part of aviation's radiative impact.
I think the paper is very well written and the study very well executed and the paper can be published after addressing several small issues.
1. In section 2.1, the authors note that chemical ion nucleation is important source of particles in the UT. Some have, in the past, considered ion-nucleatiion in the aircraft exhaust plume. Since there are no soot particles and the current model is assuming nucleation on ambient particles, it is probably worth mentioning that ion nucleation from combustion chemi-iions is not being considered in this analysis. I don't think that is a shortcoming of the analysis, but it should be made clear that that may be another nucleation pathway, but is not being considered here (perhaps add in section 3.3?). If the authors have explicit reasons why they chose not to do so, that may be useful to add, but not necessary.
2. In section 4.2.2 line 433-434, the authors note "This behavior is similar to . . . kerosene combustion." I think it is notable and a bit remarkable that this is the case, despite the very different nuclei number density behavior (keerosene starts high and dilutes, while the H2 case has continual entrainment). I think a phrase should be added to emphasize that the dependence is similar DESPITE quite different nuclei number histories.
3. Fiigure 6 is an important result. However, I found the caption confusing. The legends do not have the T = 230 K line type (dashed) identified. And the caption only mentions this at the very end. I was trying to understand the first two panels and was reading that part of the caption and not finding out to what the dashed lines correspond. I would recommend putting the statement about the two temperatures at the beginning of the caption to avoid this problem, if they don't want to have the dashed lines in the figure legend itself.
4. Fiinally, section 5.1 is a bit inappropriate, I think. First, the analysis doesn't really do anything with oil particles. So this is sort of a side comment that this might need to be studies more. And the paper only cites one paper on oil, while there is signficant literature on aviation engine oil contributions to aviation PM emissions. And some of the other literature presents data significantly distinct from the one paper cited. The authors should either review the literature more broadly or minimize their discussion of the oil emission data. And the comment that "a hermetic and clean sealing of the engines from the oil system should be improved with regard to a complete jet oil recovery" indicates a lack of understanding of how the oil system on an aviation gas turbine engine functions. A comment along the lines of "reduction or elimination of oil emissions from the aircraft engines may be . . . a valuable mitigation effort for contrail formation" might be better. It should also be qualified ("may") since oil's role in contrails is still very poorly understood.