Articles | Volume 26, issue 5
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-26-3321-2026
© Author(s) 2026. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
Improving Arctic surface radiation estimation using a nonlinear perturbation model with a fused multi-satellite cloud fraction dataset
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- Final revised paper (published on 04 Mar 2026)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-4787', Anonymous Referee #1, 18 Nov 2025
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', yueming zheng, 08 Feb 2026
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-4787', Anonymous Referee #2, 04 Feb 2026
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', yueming zheng, 08 Feb 2026
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AR by yueming zheng on behalf of the Authors (08 Feb 2026)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (09 Feb 2026) by Guy Dagan
RR by Anonymous Referee #2 (17 Feb 2026)
RR by Tristan L'Ecuyer (24 Feb 2026)
ED: Publish as is (24 Feb 2026) by Guy Dagan
AR by yueming zheng on behalf of the Authors (25 Feb 2026)
This manuscript introduces a new neural network (NN) based approach for correcting estimates of Arctic downwelling shortwave radiation (DSR) and, subsequently, Arctic net surface radiation (NR) from CERES products, cloud properties, and ancillary atmospheric and surface properties. The algorithm improves DSR estimates relative to surface flux observations, especially in cases where CERES underestimates cloud fraction relative to a recently developed cloud product that combines active and passive observations. NR is also improved, though to a lesser degree, likely due to the approach neglecting the varying influences of downwelling longwave radiation (DLR) on NR. There is value to producing more robust DSR estimates that incorporate improved estimates of cloud fraction from active sensors as well as dependences on other atmospheric and surface conditions.
My primary concern with the study is that the NN approach introduces a disconnect between the final DSR and NR estimates and the physics that modulated them. While the multi-variate NN captures nonlinear relationships and includes additional factors that modulate surface radiative fluxes, it masks the precise physical relationships that led to the results. One clear example of this is the fact that NR is estimated from DSR without accounting for cloud or atmospheric influences on longwave radiation. Presumably the NN captures some of the longwave effects through covariances between DSR, DLR, and other regression variables but it cannot make up for the lack of information provided by longwave radiative transfer calculations. The direct physical connection between inputs and simulated fluxes has considerable value for many atmospheric process and climate applications, so it is not clear how this product could be used in those contexts.
Considering both the value of the analysis and the associated concerns, the paper may be suitable for publication after major revisions to better explain which applications the NR product may be address and responding to the following comments.
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