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Global seasonal distribution of CH2Br2 and CHBr3 in the upper troposphere and lower stratosphere
Markus Jesswein
Rafael P. Fernandez
Lucas Berná
Alfonso Saiz-Lopez
Jens-Uwe Grooß
Ryan Hossaini
Eric C. Apel
Rebecca S. Hornbrook
Elliot L. Atlas
Donald R. Blake
Stephen Montzka
Timo Keber
Tanja Schuck
Thomas Wagenhäuser
Andreas Engel
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RC1: 'Comment on acp-2022-472', Anonymous Referee #1, 12 Sep 2022
This paper discusses the global and seasonal distribution of two short lived brominated compounds based on multiple aircraft measurement campaigns as well as two global models. The data compilation and discussion of the main features are well done and the comparison with the model output reveals some shortcomings in our ability to accurately model these compounds in certain seasons and hemispheres. The data discrepancy between instrument data sets in the fall SH lowermost stratosphere is significant and hampers the ability to make conclusions about transport differences between the SH and NH LMS. But this is important to point out as clearly as is done here since it shows the data are also not perfect and that we need more measurements in data poor regions to help us understand how models perform throughout the atmosphere.
Overall, I find this paper is acceptable for publication in ACP with consideration of the few minor comments listed below. In particular, Section 4.3 is far too heavy on the specific listing of mixing ratio values at various parts of the profiles to the detriment of reader comprehension of the main points of the section.
Specific comments:
Line 31: There’s an extra ‘to’ here, maybe remove the first one.
Lines 49-50: Add ‘tropospheric’ after ‘extratropical’ here.
Figure 4: This is important to show the uncertainty that can exist between data from different instruments and how it can defy easy explanation. It’s unfortunate that the discrepancy is so large in the region and time of interest but this makes it even more important to point out as you have done.
Line 261: ‘as’ should be ‘has’
Line 276: ‘tropospheric’ misspelled
Line 380: ‘close’ misspelled
Section 4.3: Starting at about line 370 I really had trouble staying focused while reading this section because there are far too many listing of exact ppt values for each species at various levels and seasons. This is in contrast to Sections 4.1 and 4.2 that were easy to follow and had many interesting features. I would suggest removing nearly all mention of exact mixing ratios in the text, the numbers are in the figures if anybody wants to see them, and stick with describing the main points you want to discuss.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-2022-472-RC1 -
RC2: 'Review comment on acp-2022-472', Anonymous Referee #2, 19 Oct 2022
General comments:The manuscript “Global seasonal distribution of CH2Br2 and CHBr3 in the upper troposphere and lower stratosphere” written by Markus Jesswein, et al. presents seasonal cycles of CH2Br2 and CHBr3 in the global UTLS regions based on the combined analysis of multiple aircraft-campaign observation data and chemical transport models. The paper contains novel investigation to reveal seasonal cycles of CH2Br2 and CHBr3 in the UTLS of the northern and southern hemispheres and is generally well written, organized, and designed, but quantitative and clear descriptions are missing in some parts of the manuscript. It should be accepted for publication pending a modification of minor points. I provide general and specific comments that need to be addressed before moving forward publication processes below.1. Please clarify what novel findings were made by integrating and analyzing data from the northern and southern hemispheres in the abstract and summary sections.2. Can the limited temporal and spatial sampling, especially in the southern hemisphere, affect the conclusion of this paper? However, there is no quantitative discussion on such effects; could they be assessed using TOMCAT and CAM-Chem model data?3. The methodology, especially the section on analytical methods, is insufficient. I would like additional explanation. Seems like different methods (e.g., with respect to equivalent latitude, sampling, etc.) were applied for observations and models, but I'm confused. Please sort them out.Specific comments:p. 1, l. 12: “the same emission inventory” What emission inventory?p. 2, l. 18-19: “Thus, both models reproduce equivalent “flushing” in both hemispheres, which is not confirmed by the available observations.”ãWhat does it mean that the models are reproducing a phenomenon not confirmed by observation?p. 6, l. 175: “with fixed emissions of the VSLS during the whole modeling period” What time resolution is the emission data, Annual or monthly climatology?p. 7, l. 188-200: 1) It would be better to separate this section as analysis methods.2) From what data were the equivalent latitudes and temperatures calculated for the observational and model data analysis, respectively?3) Please clarify which sections latitude-altitude, θ, Δθ, and equivalent latitude coordinate systems are used for.4) Please clarify how do you sample the model data, along the aircraft tracks or regional mean?p. 8, l. 221: “While the distribution of CH2Br2 in hemispheric spring is quite similar, …” What is similar to what, the distributions of NH and SH?p. 8, l. 222: “… differs with smaller values in the SH compared to the NH” How much is the difference?p. 9, l. 258: “Ordonez et al. (2012) already identify some issues regarding…” Please clarify what issues were identified?p. 9, l. 266: “Nonetheless, the NH shows larger values in autumn and winter compared to spring and summer …” How much?p. 10, l. 308-309 “Both models quantitatively reproduce the larger CH2Br2 values in hemispheric winter and spring and smaller values in summer and autumn (see Fig. S3).” Which latitude bands does this statement refer? The models do not look like reproducing the observed seasonality of CH2Br2 in low latitudes.p. 12, l. 382: “hemispheric autumn profiles of CH2Br2 and CHBr3 are less similar than in hemispheric spring.” What is less similar, profiles of CH2Br2 and CHBr3 or profiles in the NH and SH?p. 13, l. 386; “Differences between the hemispheres become larger on lowest levels above the dynamical tropopause, i.e., in the ExTL.” Compared to what, do the inter-hemispheric differences become larger?Figures 2 and 3: What is the reason for missing values in the lower stratosphere in the TOMCAT model? (Second row).Figures 5 and S1: description of line colors are missing.Citation: https://doi.org/
10.5194/acp-2022-472-RC2 - AC1: 'Responses to referees', Markus Jesswein, 03 Nov 2022