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Exploring the elevated water vapor signal associated with the free tropospheric biomass burning plume over the southeast Atlantic Ocean
Kristina Pistone
Paquita Zuidema
Robert Wood
Michael Diamond
Arlindo M. da Silva
Gonzalo Ferrada
Pablo E. Saide
Rei Ueyama
Ju-Mee Ryoo
Leonhard Pfister
James Podolske
David Noone
Ryan Bennett
Eric Stith
Gregory Carmichael
Jens Redemann
Connor Flynn
Samuel LeBlanc
Michal Segal-Rozenhaimer
Yohei Shinozuka
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- Final revised paper (published on 29 Jun 2021)
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- Preprint (discussion started on 21 Jan 2021)
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RC1: 'Comment on acp-2020-1322', Anonymous Referee #1, 15 Feb 2021
The manuscript titled “Exploring the elevated water vapor signal associated with the free-tropospheric biomass burning plume over the southeast Atlantic Ocean” by Kristina Pistone and co-authors investigated the association of CO-q with ORACLES aircraft data over SEA ocean. They have also analyzed the reanalysis and model simulations to understand the meteorological and dynamical dependence of BB plume-water vapour relationship. This manuscript is well written and scientifically sound. I recommend the publication of this manuscript in ACP.
The explanation for the source of water vapour in the continental plume and its close association with BB CO and aerosols is not adequate. Since reanalysis and model results also showed similar variabilities, this could be of a meteorological coincidence rather than direct emissions. But why such a strong association exist between CO and q is not yet clear and needs to be explained in detail. Is there any study on source tagging or isotopic measurements of water vapour and aerosols over SEA?
Authors discussed the influence of boundary layer evolution over land on the vertical transport of CO and water vapour over the continents. I could not find further quantitative supporting information on the boundary layer parameters (boundary layer height, fluxes: SHF and LHF etc) to supplement the arguments. Small write-up on the general boundary layer features and its diurnal structure during the BB events could be useful.
The year-to-year variability of CO-q relationship is worth noting. Authors mentioned the airmass history over the BB regions, but more information is required on this point. Whether airmass pattern shows significant difference between 2016, 2017 and 2018? Notwithstanding the variability in time and meteorological conditions, what about the CO-q association for co-located measurements made during 2016, 2017 and 2018? Whether re-analysis and model simulations also depict weak association during 2017 and 2018?
Section 4.1 analyze the isentropic and kinematic airmass back trajectories using HYSPLIT. Though authors made broad comments on the usefulness and issues of back trajectory analysis, this section did not add more to the association of CO-q. Page 32, Line 1-4: This point is interesting, but needs more clarity and supporting evidence.
There are several studies discussed the radiative implications of aerosols on water vapor and diurnal evolution of boundary layer over the continental locations. How does BB aerosols influence the CO-q association? I wonder whether diabatic heating due to absorbing aerosols has any effect on the elevated layers of water vapour. Moreover, photochemical oxidations and chemical reactions involving CH4 and OH can also affect the concentration of CO and water vapour. Though the strength of these mechanisms may not be adequate enough to explain the observed CO-q association, it is better to mention these possibilities in the discussion for the sake of completion.
Figure 2 is interesting. Authors mentioned that the humidity datasets (aircraft, COMA, WISPER) differ for measurements within the PBL and rapidly changing aircraft conditions. I still not able to understand why only PBL humidity measured from the three instruments differ? What is the problem with PBL humidity and why aircraft is more stable (fewer ascents/descents) in the free troposphere compared to PBL. What is the rationale for omitting the PBL data is not clear? Is it possible to screen the data close to clouds?
Page 11, Line 7-8: What is the rationale for selecting PBL height as 2 km? How do authors measure the PBL height (Page 12, Line 5)?
Page 13, Line 8-10: To assess the possibility of the hygroscopic growth of aerosols on the AOD versus q relationship, authors have to provide the ranges of relative humidity.
Page 25, line 29: replace “continental boundary layer over land” with “continental boundary layer” (or boundary layer over land).
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-2020-1322-RC1 -
AC1: 'Author response to reviewers', Kristina Pistone, 11 May 2021
We thank both reviewers for their detailed reading and comments. In the attachment, we address each comment and provide a revised manuscript with edits tracked. We think these revisions have improved the manuscript and hope that they are satisfactory to the reviewers.
Best,
Kristina Pistone and coauthors
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AC1: 'Author response to reviewers', Kristina Pistone, 11 May 2021
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RC2: 'Review of Pistone et al.', Anonymous Referee #2, 29 Mar 2021
In this study, the authors investigate the possible origin of the elevated moisture that characterises biomass-burning aerosol plumes transported from southern Africa to the south-eastern Atlantic Ocean. The authors find robust relationships between carbon monoxide (used as a marker of combustion sources) and specific humidity in ORACLES aircraft data and reanalyses and free-running models. They demonstrate that aircraft measurements are very probably real and that models simulate specific humidity sufficiently well for the analysis. They then use the models over land to track the source of the relationship, which they attribute to convection over the source regions of the biomass-burning aerosol. The moisture cannot originate from the fires themselves, which emit too small an amount of water to explain the measured enhancement.
The manuscript is very well written and follows a very clear reasoning. Figures support the discussion well. The paper makes a convincing case that elevated moisture and carbon monoxide are, to a large degree and despite their correlation, two independent quantities transported in the same air mass.
My only main comment is to clarify the conclusion of the paper. In the conclusion section (Page 34 line 32 to page 35 line 4), and also – I think - at the end of the abstract (Page 2, lines 8-9), the authors call for more research on the effects of elevated water vapour on radiation and clouds. I am not sure why. I can see two direct implications of the results:
- In that region, biomass-burning aerosols are transported in moist layers. That moisture modifies their aerosol optical depth and single-scattering albedo through hygroscopic growth, but such impacts are captured by aircraft and satellite retrievals.
- The transported air layer would be moist even without fires. In other words, the elevated water vapour is part of the natural atmosphere and is not an external perturbation. Of course, it will have its own radiative effects and influence aerosol-cloud interactions by supplying moisture, but those impacts seem clearly identified, as discussed from Page 2 line 22 to Page 3 line 5.
In that context, what are the outstanding questions?
Other comments
- Page 3, lines 28-31: These two statements suggest that aerosols need to be present for water vapour to influence clouds and have a radiative impact. Obviously, there is no need for aerosols for water vapour to interact with radiation. And lines 7-9 on the same page suggest that water vapour alone can exert radiative effects that are sufficiently strong to affect clouds. So I would suggest rewriting those statements.
- Page 8, line 13: I have never been sure of what aerosols do in the MERRA reanalysis. The MERRA papers say that GOCART is "radiatively coupled" to GEOS5 in that reanalysis, but does that then mean that aerosols affect heating rates?
- Page 12, line 7: "lower correlation than the other flights" – than the other routine flight? The flight on 20 September has an even lower correlation.
- Page 12, line 18: I suggest clarifying that statement by echoing the statement made on page 20, lines 7-10, which is clearer on the assumption made: that because air masses are transported from the continent, one can reasonably extend the confidence gained over ocean to the continent.
- Caption of Figure 12: "Each parameter has a distinct diurnal cycle except CO at 650hPa." What does that mean?
- Page 25, lines 1-4: Are those daily variations in CO emissions represented in MERRA2? If not, that might explain why the daily cycle of CO is flatter than other variables on Figure 12.
- Page 27, line 4: What is meant by "background CO is used"? Doesn’t the model simulate CO from emissions?
Technical comments
- Page 2, lines 31-32: Suggest rewriting to "the cloud liquid water path response to aerosol (via aerosol indirect effects) was much stronger".
- Page 3, line 7: The brackets in "(as was described by Adebiyi et al., 2015)" seem unnecessary.
- Page 8, line 25, and Page 9, lines 4, 7, and 8: Is CAMS the Copernicus Atmosphere Monitoring Service Reanalysis (Inness et al. (2019) https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-19-3515-2019) or a typo for CAM5? Probably the former. Incidentally, the CAMS dataset could be an additional dataset in which to look at CO-q correlations. In fact, given its close link to ERA-5, CAMS may be a better dataset to do so than MERRA2.
- Figure 9: The black dashed line that marks the African shoreline is not very visible. Could mark its position with an arrow on the x-axis?
- Page 23, line 23: Repeated word "the"
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-2020-1322-RC2 -
AC1: 'Author response to reviewers', Kristina Pistone, 11 May 2021
We thank both reviewers for their detailed reading and comments. In the attachment, we address each comment and provide a revised manuscript with edits tracked. We think these revisions have improved the manuscript and hope that they are satisfactory to the reviewers.
Best,
Kristina Pistone and coauthors
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AC1: 'Author response to reviewers', Kristina Pistone, 11 May 2021
We thank both reviewers for their detailed reading and comments. In the attachment, we address each comment and provide a revised manuscript with edits tracked. We think these revisions have improved the manuscript and hope that they are satisfactory to the reviewers.
Best,
Kristina Pistone and coauthors