Articles | Volume 26, issue 11
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-26-8145-2026
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Identifying orographic gravity waves in 3D observations via backward ray tracing
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- Final revised paper (published on 11 Jun 2026)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-4946', Anonymous Referee #1, 17 Dec 2025
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Sebastian Rhode, 01 Feb 2026
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-4946', Anonymous Referee #2, 21 Dec 2025
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Sebastian Rhode, 01 Feb 2026
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AR by Sebastian Rhode on behalf of the Authors (01 Jun 2026)
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*REVIEW OF Rhode: Identifying orographic gravity waves... (ACP 4946)*
This paper demonstrates a method to identify orographic gravity waves from three-dimensional data with backward ray tracing. The dataset is IFS simulation prepared as if a satellite would observe it, called by the author "satellite simulation". Gravity waves are identified with he S3D method and rays are started at 35 km altitude. This method is new and could also be used in general to identify orographic gravity waves. However, the data cover the 2018/2029 "New Year SSW" which deserves some more physical interpretation, as specified in the major comments. That is why I suggest a minor revision.
** Major comments
1) Propagation: Once a mountain wave is excited at the surface, the further propagation is determined by the wind field. This issue deserves some discussion and presentation with typical examples. The key process is likely the refraction into the stratospheric jet, and this should be identified in the data. Further, there are comparable field campaigns which are documenting such oblique propagation in detail - and these should be discussed.
2) Stratwarms: The wind field is changing drastically during sudden stratospheric warmings, which concerns the phases before, at, and after the central date. The specific spatial structure of the wind should be documented and used to argue for the local gravity wave appearance above Mongolia respectively Atlantic/Canadian.
** Technical comments
L10: You write that orographic gravity waves may "dominate episodically, including prior to the onset of SSW" - but you do not show it. In line 132 you write of "40 % on individual days" but this is far from dominance. Please, reformulate this passage to the features you are documenting with the analysis.
L69: You write the "spectra are smoothed" - so, you did not execute this filtering in space? Further, the cutoff at zonal wavenumber 7 (~2900 km at 60 °N) and 10° in latitude (~1100 km) is not consistent. At least, this is not orientation preserving. Some arguments for this procedure are given in Mathew et al. (2025), which I after a while found at
https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2025/egusphere-2025-4602/
(a DOI in the reference list would have been helpful). These are more technical reasons like strong jumps and applicability of smoothers. Please, adjust the text accordingly.
L119: I suggest to write "before and past" and leave "way" out.
L126: Do you mean "time series" with "timeline"?
L131: I do not see that the strongest GW events are "mostly driven by orographic GWMF" - please, reformulate.
Fig. 2: Please, specify what the contours are. In view of the major comments, I suggest to indicate the horizonal wind speed contours in order to show the refraction effect.
Fig. 3: Do you mean "time series" with "timeline"? Perhaps, indication of the central date with an arrow would help identification of the special situation. So, what you show here is a polar cap averaged of absolute momentum flux, right? Is it possible to say something on the sign which could change when the zonal wind turns easterly?
L175: "it show" --> "it shows"
Fig. 4: Also here, overplots of wind speed could help interpretation. From which time are these plots, or are they averages?
L181: This sentence is a bit confusing, I guess you mean "simulated observations of a space-based infrared imager", or?
Fig. 5: May be, another horizontal line in the left plot for 0.1 fraction would visualize the 90th percentile
L183: With reference to L108ff, I see three instead of two criteria.
Fig. A1: Please, specify "orographic GWMF" as you did for the other figures.
L254: May be, "limit case" is better to read than "edge case".
L264: The mentioning of the "horizontal propagation layer" is interesting - is it the tropospheric jet or the lower edge of he stratospheric jet? A further documentation of wind profiles could make this point clearer and worth to be placed in the main text.