The authors completed a substantial revision of their first draft to address the comments made by the reviewers. The manuscript is much improved. I have a few comments that can be considered major and several minor comments. I am recommending a major revision so that the authors have time to complete the revisions.
Major Comments
The WP region has large cloud cover in northern part of the region. Did you consider shifting this region northward to capture this cloud cover? Also, why wasn’t this area of cloud cover used for the “sensitive” region as it shows the largest change in radiative forcing (Fig 11d)? Related to this, why doesn’t 1b for the WP region show similar results as 11d – because for the rest of the regions, figure 1b and 11 show similar results?
Need to better conceptualize that regions like the Eq are dominated by SW_AER because cloud cover is minimal. Some parts of the manuscript read like the Eq region does not brighten clouds, where the dominant reason SW_CLD is low in the Eq region is because there are few clouds. Please clarify this feature for the reader throughout the manuscript.
Need to define saturation. The lines in Figure 7 do not show saturation (at least by my definition), saturation would mean no slope, but SW_CLD for SA, NP, and SP still show an upwards slope from 1 to 2 10-9 kg m-2 s-1. You would need to include injections up to 3, 4, 5, x 10 -9 kg m-2 s-1 to truly show where saturation is met.
Minor Comments
The title is a little confusing, consider “The effectiveness of solar radiation management using fine sea spray across multiple climatic regions”
Graphic Abstract – I suggest removing the figure panel with ship and the large blue arrow above it
Line 29 – I don’t think “controversy” is the right term here. I suggest something like: “The relative contributions of direct and indirect effects in MCB implementations remain uncertain. Here, we quantify both effects by designing model simulations to simulated MCB for five open ocean regions around the globe.”
Line 40 – “… amounts and selecting areas sensitive to the injection”
Line 52 – remove “more innovative”
Line 53 – replace “by attempting” with “that”
Line 58 – remove “certain”
Line 69–71 – consider whether this sentence is necessary to your study
Line 77 – Should Latham et al. 2008 be Latham et al. 2014?
Line 80 – Needs a citation at the end of this sentence
Line 81 – Literatures -> Literature
Line 89 – Consider starting a new paragraph with “The implementation region …”
Line 96 – controversial -> uncertain & it would be good to cite some of these papers that calculate the direct and indirect effects
Line 100 – oceans worldwide -> ocean regions
Line 124 – Consider starting a new paragraph with “Sea salt emissions …”
Line 147 – included the globe … -> include globally, the tropics (30S-30N), and regions ..
Line 148 – remove “, and so on”
Line 156 – remove “numbers”
Line 165 – Related to my major comment above, the WP arguably has the densest cloud cover of any region, it’s just located in the northern part of the region (Figure 2). Be careful how you explain the results for the WP region, as it is a heterogenous domain with respect to cloud cover.
Line 192 – Also related to my major comment above, why wasn’t the northern part of the WP region found as the sensitive area?
Line 204 – “preset” do you mean used as a boundary or initial condition?
Line 207 – “radiation” -> “radiative”
Line 215 – existed -> exists
Line 216 – is -> are
Line 217 – Consider rearranging the sentence to read “… injected by the four different sea-salt aerosol injection strategies, we propose …”
Line 223 – include “the” between “much SW_TOT”
Line 224 – remove “in the current study area”
Line 241 – means -> mean
Line 242 – There are 23 supplemental figures! – Consider if you need all of these. A reader will not be inclined to look at any of the supplemental material if it’s overwhelming
Line 254 – consider rearranging to “Three ensemble members were generated for each experiment in each region.”
After line 254 – can you detail here how you created your ensemble?
After line 255 – Can you detail here what statistical test you used to determine significance?
Line 263-265 – Make sure to state throughout your results that a change in a variable is being compared to BASE and note whether these changes are statistically significant.
Line 268 – Uniformly -> Uniform
Line 269 – can remove “continental west coast”
Line 292-306 – This paragraph was unclear to me. But, I do feel it’s important to justify the wind dependent experiments. Can you revise this paragraph for clarity?
Line 308 – “injection rate” do you mean “injection amount”?
Line 314 – remove although
Line 314 – remove only; ~5 W m 2 is still large
Line 328 – Pertaining to my major comment, Eq response of SW_TOT is dominated by SW_AER because there are few clouds in this region. This should be explicitly stated for the reader.
Line 333 – responses -> response
Line 345 – grids -> locations
Line 360-361 – Should be moved to Discussion
Line 365 – radiation -> radiative
Line 365-366 – Again, note cloud cover’s role in SW_CLD for Eq and WP
Line 371-372 – Isn’t this just because the region is much larger than the sensitive area. You could find the mean SW_TOT in W m-2 for the sensitive region and the full region without the sensitive region included
Line 379-381 – same comment as above
Line 385-389 – What is meant by saturation – because these results aren’t true, SW_CLD is still increasing for NP, SP, and SA. See major comment above and revise
Figure 7 Caption – should be error bars reflecting ensemble spread
Line 394 – was -> is
Line 399 – again, I don’t think your results show saturation.
Line 430 – aerosol -> aerosols
Line 435-436 – is this a regional mean?
Line 439-447 – consider removing or moving to sup material
Line 448 – higher -> greater?
Line 450 – Need space at end of sentence
Line 456 -459 – Are these regional means? Please clarify such instances for the full manuscript
Line 459-469 – Are these necessary results for your main points? I think you can remove these lines
Line 477 – This is the first use of the word “significant” – significance should be determined by a statistical test not just if one number is larger than another.
Line 500 – are the clouds more susceptible in these regions, or are there just more clouds?
Line 517 – another example of saturates when nothing shows saturation
Line 517 – Yes, the cloud brightening rate does slow (the clouds are difficult to brighten further). See major comment
Line 522 – modification -> cloud brightening
Line 523 – remove use
Line 525 – New paragraph beginning with “ This study highlights…”
Line 536-573 – A really long paragraph that needs to be condensed or split. Also, the paragraphs needs to better clarity how this study compares with others – I’m unsure what you main point(s) are. A table may help with the comparisons.
Line 575 – with a “local” maximum
Line 576 – could reach -> reaches
Line 577 – What is the targeted change in cloud albedo?
Line 582-583 – citation(s) needed
Line 613 – the regional oceans -> five ocean regions |
This study explores Marine Cloud Brightening in five regions across the global ocean using the WRF-CMAQ model. Their results show that clouds are most susceptible to brightening in the North Pacific, South Pacific, and South Atlantic where marine stratocumulus dominate, this finding is consistent with previous studies. The authors look at MCB in the Western Pacific, a region they call Asia, and an equatorial region in the Philippine Sea they call Equa. In each region, the authors explored injecting Accumulation mode sea salt particles in four experiments which differed by the amount injected and whether the injection rate was sensitive to wind speed.
While the analysis is expansive, 11 main figures and 29 supplemental figures, their key points and a central storyline was very difficult to follow. I also see major issues in their methods which I will describe below. I think this paper will benefit from simplifying their paper goals, which I think is stated on line 345-347, “… when implementing geoengineering measures [MCB], it is essential to comprehensively consider the interactions between aerosols and clouds … in various regions”. The authors may choose to add aerosol direct effects to this main message, but I think the paper would benefit in focusing on why MCB works in different ways in different regions. To reach this goal with more clarity and ease for the reader, the results could be presented as the SW_TOT, SW_CLD, and SW_AER findings for each region and why the results differ regionally. Is it cloud cover?, cloud type?, saturation issues?. I think having four different injection methods (+ analysis of injection in sensitive areas, which was not described in the methods) makes this storyline difficult to follow. In summary, reducing some of the analysis, and certainly the number and references to supplemental material, will clarify this paper and provide focus which will enhance readability. The main points of the paper and which results are unique to this study, are currently difficult to decipher amongst the details.
For these reasons and the reasons below, I believe the paper needs to be re-worked before considered for publication.
Major Concerns:
1. There is only one simulation for each experiment and region. This makes the discussion of model uncertainty impossible and difficult to gauge whether the results would be consistent if other ensemble members were included. I recommend at least 3 ensemble members per region.
Minor Concerns:
Double check the verb tense that is used, the authors may find it easier to refer to their study and simulation results in the present tense.
The abstract could better capture what results were unique to this study and include a better justification for why this study is essential to the field.
Line 26 – “conducted experiments” sounds like field experiments, consider “designed computer simulations”
Line 32 – remove the word “still”
Line 34-36 – This is a well known characteristic of MCB and MSB, does your study offer any new findings?
Line 44 -47 – unclear
Line 47 – attention (not attentions)
Line 47 – I don’t think “radical” is the right word
Line 61 – more sunlight back “to space”
Line 65 – what is meant by “coarse part”?
Line 66 – clarify that these are aerosols that are not injected into clouds
Line 69 – New Paragraph after “sea-salt aerosols as MCB.”
Line 70 – non-polluting – I think terrestrial deposition of sea salt is pollution
Line 71 – You may wish to compare a global geoengineering intervention like SAI to MCB here.
Line 76 – “summarizes” – I would use the present tense to describe the results in this paper.
Line 83-86 – sentence is unclear
Line 100 – “considers” not “considered” – please correct all of these grammatical errors for next submission.
Line 141 – Did you consider calling the “Asia” region the “West Pacific (WP)”
Can you justify why you chose to look at the Asia and Equa regions? I’m not sure I understand why these were a focus of the study.
Line 163, not 1.5 times the wind speed, but raised to the 1.5 power.
Line 185 – “excluding the (direct effect) of the aerosols”
Line 196 – Indent new paragraph
Line 198 – reference table S2
Line 220 – “Base” is not defined. Please discuss the Base simulation and climatology of these regions in the Methods.
At the end of the Methods please include a paragraph that describes the analyses to follow – how will they be presented? Why simulation will be compared to one another? Are these results for regional averages/temporal averages, etc.
Line 236 – by discrepancy do you mean “variations in methods”?
Line 239 – relies -> rely
Line 241 – Can you reference Figure 2 as well as Table S2?
Line 246 – exceeded -> exceeds
Line 257-260 – sentences and results such of this would benefit with a reference to a figure/figure panel at the end of the sentence to aid the reader in deciphering what result is being examined.
Line 260-261 – unclear
Line 269 – higher (than what?)
Line 270 – Emcb decreased (where?)
Line 272 – reference figure 3.
Line 273 – were -> are
Line 288 – ignored -> ignore
Line 290 – grid (points)
Line 288 – 306 – please explain the sensitive regions and why this analysis is done in the Methods
Line 302-306 needs references.
Below line 306 – I stopped making editing requests. Please review and have others look at the paper for grammatical and clarity errors before resubmission.
Line 378-379 – Can the authors describe the variations in cloud types, cloud amounts (cover/fraction), and atmospheric conditions that make the SW_CLD response different in each of the 5 regions. I think this should be a main focus of the text.
Line 420- 447 – This could be supplemental text and figures
Line 448 – 455 – Please move this discussion to the beginning of the results or in the methods as you describe the 5 locations. I think it would be helpful to have low cloud cloud fraction as a main figure as this will highly correlate with SW_CLD and help explain the results and how they differ amongst regions. This section I would consider expanding and adding details such as how variable cloud cover and cloud type affect your results.
Section 3.5 – can these results be summarized in a main text table?
Figure 4 Caption – call it the y-axis not the vertical coordinate.
In general for Section 3.2, I don’t see how you can interpret the result of SW_CLD and SW_AER without discussion what the cloud cover is. If there are no clouds, of course SW_AER will dominate.
Throughout the manuscript, when making a comparison, please make sure to write out which two experiments are being compared to one another.
The use of significant digits seems arbitrary.
The discussion contains a lot of material that I’m not sure is relevant to the current study. Try to focus on results that are unique to this study.