Articles | Volume 25, issue 23
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-25-17725-2025
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Migrating diurnal tide anomalies during QBO disruptions in 2016 and 2020: morphology and mechanism
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- Final revised paper (published on 05 Dec 2025)
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Review comments on Liu et al. (2025)
This paper inverstigates the impact of the QBO distruption on DW1 tides and finds that the heating source was enhanced during the QBO distruptions. I bevelive that the QBO distruption enhances the DW1 tide because it corresponds to the easterly phase, which is well known to amplify the tide. This topic is very interesting and highly suitable for the ACP journal. However, I have several concerns regarding the analysis and discussion. I feel that their results does not sufficiently support their conclusion.
Also, I wonder what differencies a QBO destruption from a typical esterly QBO phase. The authors do not address this point at all. If there is no clear difference, this paper does not present a new finding, although it does confirms the QBO impact on the DW1, which is an important work. Furthermore, I question whether the enhancement of the DW1 is caused by the QBO or by El Nino.
I apologize for the number of critical comments (and I may have misunderstood some aspects), but I believe that this paper needs substantial improvement before it is ready for publication.
Major comments
In the current analysis, the discussion above 60 km seems fine because the singal of (1,1) mode can be seen clearly. However, below 60 km, contaminention from trapped modes seems significant, potentially introducing errors.
Wang, H., Boyd, J. P., and Akmaev, R. A.: On computation of Hough functions, Geosci. Model Dev., 9, 1477–1488, https://doi.org/10.5194/gmd-9-1477-2016, 2016.
https://github.com/masaru-kogure/Hough_Function
To justify the claim that the ozone heating strengthens the (1,1) mode, I strongly recommend computing a ratio of the tidal amplitude between 2016 and QBOE. If the authors are correct, the ration (2016/QBOE) should increase above 30 km with height, but the increase should not seem below 30 km.
Noth that if ozone heating does contribute to the DW1 (1,1) mode generation, the phase should change in the stratosphere as well. Considering the combination of trigonometric functions, the phase should change significantly in the stratosphere when additional source exists there. For more on this, see section 4.2 in Kogure et al. (2023).
I personally speculate QBO might modulate the upper tropospheric water vapor and the stratospheric ozone, but I am not sure the modulation enhances or suppress them.
Minor comment.
Line 107: H-Liu (2010; 2018) should be cited.
Liu, H.-L., Bardeen, C. G., Foster, B. T., Lauritzen, P., Liu, J., Lu, G., … Wang, W. (2018). Development and validation of the Whole Atmosphere Community Climate Model with thermosphere and ionosphere extension (WACCM-X 2.0). Journal of Advances in Modeling Earth Systems, 10, 381–402. https://doi.org/10.1002/2017MS001232
Liu, H.-L., et al. (2010), Thermosphere extension of the Whole Atmosphere Community Climate Model, J. Geophys. Res., 115, A12302, doi:10.1029/2010JA015586.
Line 122: “.etc”-> “and so on.”
Line 161: Clarify a full width at half maximum.
Line 178: “Within each QBO cycle, the DW1 amplitude in the stratosphere below 40 km leads that in the MLT region by one to two months.”
I am not sure why the DW1 in the stratosphere lead that in the MLT because the DW1 tide does not take one month to propagate from the stratosphere to the MLT. I guess that this discrepancy could attributed to the trapped mode variation in the stratosphere.
Figure 4: I assume that the authors calculated the standard deviation from the phase itself. However, I think the phase does not have a symmetric distribution. Also, the values change cyclically (e.g., it jumps from 4pi to -4pi), causing the overestimation of the standard deviation. Indeed, the standard deviation is very larger in larger than 2 while it is very small around 0. In such a case, I recommend the following steps. First, you calculate averages and standard devotion (or error) of sine and cosine Fourier components, and then you calculate the average phase and its confidential interval using the error propagation.
Note that if the authors calculate the average from the phase itself, it must distort the vertical wavelengths. For example, 4 pi and -3.9pi are almost the same phase, but the average value is almost 0.
Line 306: “So,” -> “; hence,”