Articles | Volume 25, issue 22
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-25-17125-2025
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Atmospheric new particle formation in the eastern region of China: an investigation on mechanism and influencing factors at multiple sites
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This paper describes results from atmospheric nucleation studies in Chinese cities and its technical aspects appear to be at the state of the art in this area. While the manuscript is admirably succinct, it also admirably touches on all (at least most) of the aspects of the important information. Yet there are sentences that are difficult to understand, and it seems that some inferences and conclusions are not well-supported (the first may be causing some of the second.) The main conclusion of the paper is that H2SO4-DMA nucleation can explain the observations in these cities. A secondary one is that OOMs are needed to explain growth rates of newly nucleated particles.
Support for the main conclusion is not well presented. For example, line 165 states that SA-DMA was 'identified ' as the dominate (sic) NPF mechanism. This is not a finding if it is solely based on Figure 1 (correlation and causation are falsely linked.) The analysis presented in section 3.2 is focused on teasing out SA and temperature dependencies. Should not a dependence on DMA be important for identifying SA-DMA nucleation? Figure S3 is mentioned as supporting the SA-DMA mechanism but on the face of it the J_1.4 sim.-meas. correlation is not good. Similarly for J_1.7 (figure 7b). For both of those, it looks like the measurements range over about 1/2 the orders of magnitude that the simulations do: this is not support for the mechanisms in the simulations. Assuming SA dimer is an indicator of SA-DMA nucleation, the best support is Figure 4 but SA_2 scaled is not presented here (confused by the text on lines 220-224.) Figure 5 does present SA_2 scaled instead. Good: it does show a decently strong temperature dependence (would be helpful to have data in Figure 4 colored by temperature also.) But two things are bothersome in this analysis: the above-mentioned dependence on DMA is washed away and details are scant on the reason behind the temperature dependence of the simulations (bond strength, and only for the SA.DMA cluster?)
Figure 2 also gives good indirect support to the (or a) SA-DMA mechanism but can the SA3 and SA4 signals be correlated to neutral cluster concentrations ? They are the ones with DMA in them! This would be support of a more direct nature. Also, this figure needs a bit more explanation. What is/are S-O ions? Symbol size meaning diameter or area? Since the plots are relatively clean, a few could be tagged with logSignal values.
Sentence on line 245 talks about dependence on DMA and mentions Figure S4 but that figure shows no (or even inverse!) difference in [DMA] between events and non-events.
There are many sentences with strange wording choices e.g. in paragraphs such as lines 59-70, lines 138-150 (also, this scaling procedure leaves the reader a bit uneasy).
Lines 304-315 in the conclusions are accurate and reflect the indirect nature of the evidence for SA-DMA nucleation but what does this paper add to what is already there? It seems the present day tools are inadequate to directly resolve the question. What should be improved? Looking for some more strongly worded conclusions.