Articles | Volume 25, issue 22
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-25-15715-2025
© Author(s) 2025. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
Formation of highly oxygenated organic molecules from α-pinene photooxidation: evidence for the importance of highly oxygenated alkoxy radicals
Download
- Final revised paper (published on 17 Nov 2025)
- Supplement to the final revised paper
- Preprint (discussion started on 02 Jul 2025)
- Supplement to the preprint
Interactive discussion
Status: closed
Comment types: AC – author | RC – referee | CC – community | EC – editor | CEC – chief editor
| : Report abuse
-
RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2772', Anonymous Referee #1, 23 Jul 2025
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Soeren Zorn, 25 Sep 2025
-
RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2772', Anonymous Referee #2, 29 Jul 2025
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Soeren Zorn, 25 Sep 2025
Peer review completion
AR – Author's response | RR – Referee report | ED – Editor decision | EF – Editorial file upload
AR by Soeren Zorn on behalf of the Authors (25 Sep 2025)
Author's response
Author's tracked changes
Manuscript
ED: Publish as is (08 Oct 2025) by Mingyi Wang
AR by Soeren Zorn on behalf of the Authors (16 Oct 2025)
Manuscript
Kang et al. uses high resolution NO3- ToF mass spectrometry to investigate the peroxy alkoxy pathway to highly oxygenated organic molecules (HOMs). Since the alkoxy radical cannot be detected using CIMS, they infer alkoxy reactions occurring by the parity of oxygen and hydrogen number, where odd oxygen C10H15Ox peroxy radicals are assumed to have formed via an alkoxy radical intermediate. There are some limitations to this method (e.g. oxygen parity only works through one generation of peroxy-alkoxy isomerization and NO3- CIMS is only sensitive to HOM RO2) and many assumptions about complex RO2 and RO chemistry. Nevertheless, the story of this paper, summarized in Figure 8, is sound and may fundamentally shift how we think about HOM formation. I find this study interesting and believe the audience of ACP will too. Before being published I request the following comments to be addressed.
Specific comments:
1. My main concern is that the discussion often neglects the importance of R structure for the peroxy-alkoxy pathway. This includes RO formation and RO isomerization, both of which are broadly parameterized here. While there are instances where structure is addressed (e.g. Figure 1), below are a few places where I would like to see a deeper discussion,
2. Although it is pointed out that NO3- CIMS is selective towards measuring HOMs, there is little discussion as to what it cannot efficiently detect. Including more information on this is important for readers to interpret what's shown in the plots and also what's not shown (e.g. less oxygenated RO2 that precede HOM RO2).
3. For the NOx experiments, your aim is to increase [NOx] to produce RO from RO2+NO reactions. There is a good discussion in the main text and SI about how NOx affects OH and thus the alpha pinene turnover rate. Have you calculated/modeled how additional NOx affects OH:HO2? The previous CO experiments show that increased HO2 shuts down peroxy alkoxy pathways, which could also explain your data in the NOx experiments.
4. In Figure 5, the x-axis is plotted as the NOx concentration. Table S1 indicates almost all of NOx is NO2. Can this be changed to NO concentration since it is RO2+NO reactions that produce alkoxy radicals?
5. Figure 6 is interesting but may be better suited for the SI. The text points out that signal is changing due to [OH] which is not corrected for. The comparison to MCM does not fit in with this specific study since autoxidation is not implemented and therefore it is without a single path to HOM RO2 (with or without considering the peroxy alkoxy pathway).
6. The branching ratios you derive for both RO formation and subsequent isomerization are important and really jumped out to me in the abstract. However, the discussion in the text comes late and was not clear. I would recommend putting more of a focus on this in the main text.
Minor comments:
Line 70: Should alcohol product have a radical dot?
Line 90: Add NO2 as product
Line 97: Clarify RO2+NO produces RO or RONO2 as products
Line 201: You mention using SA calibration factor for HOMs and specify a value. But no concentrations are reported in the paper. Why is that?
Line 258: You specify the same formula, C10H17Ox+1, twice. Please clarify.
Line 264-267: This paragraph is generally confusing to read. Please clarify. You point out 3 products coming from 2 precursors and then say respectively. It is not clear what products are from which precursors.
Line 268: What is sufficient NO? Even low NO will be important to peroxy-alkoxy chemistry (Nie, W., et al, Nature Comm, 2023)
Line 417: “Different from C10H15O8 and C10H15O10, formation of C10H15O6 is obviously exclusively initialized by OH oxidation.” I would remove obviously. Could C10H15O6 not been formed from AP + O3 ->C10H15O4 -> C10H15O6 through one generation of autoxidation?
Line 495: “The CO experiment resulted in a clear suppression in the abundance of HOM-RO2 radicals” This is not clear from the data presented in Figure 4 which is normalized. Please show unnormalized data to make this point.
Line 655: “…strong increase in O:C caused by NOx addition is only explainable by impacts of HOM-RO…” I agree that your data supports this conclusion, but I would caution against saying this is the only explanation since there are not measurements for how the less oxygenated RO2 were affected
Additionally, please reread the manuscript to minor typos (extra word in line 491, missing word in line 638, subscripts in line 726)