Articles | Volume 25, issue 20
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-25-13953-2025
© Author(s) 2025. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
The subtleties of three-dimensional radiative effects in contrails and cirrus clouds
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- Final revised paper (published on 28 Oct 2025)
- Preprint (discussion started on 03 Jan 2025)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3642', Anonymous Referee #3, 05 Feb 2025
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Julie Carles, 25 Apr 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3642', Anonymous Referee #2, 13 Feb 2025
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Julie Carles, 25 Apr 2025
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AR by Julie Carles on behalf of the Authors (25 Apr 2025)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (13 May 2025) by Stelios Kazadzis
RR by Anonymous Referee #4 (24 Jun 2025)
ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (25 Jun 2025) by Stelios Kazadzis
AR by Julie Carles on behalf of the Authors (04 Jul 2025)
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ED: Publish as is (09 Jul 2025) by Stelios Kazadzis
AR by Julie Carles on behalf of the Authors (17 Jul 2025)
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The manuscript investigates cloud radiative effect (CRE) (both overcast and all sky) and 3D radiative effect using a Monte Carlo ray tracer run in a plane parallel (1D) and 3D configuration. It investigates the CRE (both shortwave and longwave) of contrails/cirrus considering a) different idealized geometries, b) for 1D vs. 3D calculations, and c) varying solar angles (including time-integrated solar angles). It also considers the 3D radiative effects of contrails for a) the sun at zenith with varying geometries and b) varying solar angles (including time integrated angles) with set geometry. These many analyses are accompanied by thoughtful discussion.
The manuscript contains several neat results:
This thorough manuscript would most benefit from better framing. What questions motivated the study? What have the authors learned that was not previously known or anticipated? How might the results be used to generalize understanding of how contrails affect radiation?
The manuscript would also benefit from greater emphasis on novel insights. The manuscript reports on both 1D and 3D calculations of CRE. The former are less novel than the latter, and the new results might come out more clearly if the 1D results were reported more selectively. In particular, the linear relationship between ice water path and CRE for the low cloud optical thickness regime is well established in the literature (and summarised in the authors’ table C2); the manuscript could instead rely upon citations to allow for more attention on 3D radiative effects.
Some more specific suggestions: