Articles | Volume 24, issue 2
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-24-1231-2024
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Thermal infrared observations of a western United States biomass burning aerosol plume
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- Final revised paper (published on 29 Jan 2024)
- Preprint (discussion started on 05 Jun 2023)
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CC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-218', Michael Fromm, 17 Jul 2023
- AC1: 'Reply on CC1', Blake Sorenson, 28 Nov 2023
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-218', Angela Benedetti, 26 Jul 2023
- AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Blake Sorenson, 28 Nov 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-218', Sophie Vandenbussche, 11 Oct 2023
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RC3: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-218', Anonymous Referee #4, 17 Oct 2023
- AC4: 'Reply on RC3', Blake Sorenson, 28 Nov 2023
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AR by Blake Sorenson on behalf of the Authors (28 Nov 2023)
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AR by Blake Sorenson on behalf of the Authors (05 Dec 2023)
The phenomenon on which the manuscript focuses, TIR cooling in apparently “dry” smoke, has been of particular interest to me and others studying energetic fire behavior. I have a few questions and observations to consider.
If I understand the manuscript, the conclusion is that the bulk of TIR cooling is attributable to large AOD of submicron particles. Cooling is characterized remotely with satellite brightness temperature data and in situ with surface weather stations. The satellite-based TIR cooling is as large as 25°C, and the onset is sudden. The in-situ surface-temperature observations show a 1-2C initial cooling followed by a leveling off and thereafter a slow rise until about dusk. Is that a fair characterization?
If my understanding is accurate, a question I have pertains to the physical reason ascribed to a supposed sudden surface cooling of up to 25°C. I.e. what would make the surface cool well below its pre-smoke condition? Like any sunny day that is interrupted by a cloud or plume, one might expect an interruption in surface warming, but what mechanism would drive the temperature significantly lower than before the plume started inhibiting insolation. Could you clarify the proposed mechanism for such a dramatic cooling as inferred from the satellite data?
There is excellent NEXRAD coverage of the Dixie fire and downwind area. These data bear directly on this case study. A review of these data reveals that there were radar echoes in the smoke plume far downwind of the fire itself. This indicates large enough particles to impact TIR brightness temperature. The radar data suggest that pyrometeors (a term coined by McCarthy et al., https://doi.org/10.1029/2019GL084305) and/or hydrometeors were in play both on 20-21 and 22 July instances.
Although GOES West data were not available for the 22 July case study, GOES East data are. These might offer an opportunity to compare the remotely sensed TIR brightness temperature with radar echoes and the surface station temperature.