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Heterogeneity and chemical reactivity of the remote troposphere defined by aircraft measurements – corrected
Clare M. Flynn
Sarah A. Strode
Stephen D. Steenrod
Louisa Emmons
Forrest Lacey
Jean-Francois Lamarque
Arlene M. Fiore
Gus Correa
Lee T. Murray
Glenn M. Wolfe
Jason M. St. Clair
Michelle Kim
John Crounse
Glenn Diskin
Joshua DiGangi
Bruce C. Daube
Roisin Commane
Kathryn McKain
Jeff Peischl
Thomas B. Ryerson
Chelsea Thompson
Thomas F. Hanisco
Donald Blake
Nicola J. Blake
Eric C. Apel
Rebecca S. Hornbrook
James W. Elkins
Eric J. Hintsa
Fred L. Moore
Steven C. Wofsy
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RC1: 'Comment on acp-2022-631', Anonymous Referee #1, 02 Nov 2022
This paper is a resubmission of a previous paper under the same name (https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/21/13729/2021/acp-21-13729-2021.pdf), with two corrections made. As I have previously reviewed this paper, I will limit my comments to the corrections.
Changes in the analysis result from two separate corrected errors:
(1) A change is in the modeling data stream (MDS-2) NOx values resulting from new gap-filling protocols. The original version (MDS-2) had high NOx over the East Pacific, and the revised version has lower values due to a different method of gap filling.
This error has been clearly identified, explained, and corrected. The impacts on the analysis are explained well.
(2) Issues with the use of RDS* protocol (which generates reactivity datasets based on HNO4 and PAN corrections) in UCI (UCI2*). I found this section more difficult to follow. It is not clear to me what the issues are, other than that either the CTM or the RDS* protocol results in calculations that are irreproducible and inconsistent. I suggest careful rewording of this section with more detail, or eliminating references to the incorrect version. My points of confusion are below:
- What “calculations” is Lines 358 referring to—is it the statistics referred to in lines 342-345, or P/LO3, or everything in Table 2 and S8, or something else?
- How is the “Atom-specific version of the CTM” discussed on line 361 different than the “Atom-specific UCI CTM” mentioned on line 364? Table 4, bottom right, indicates that reaction rates are changed—can you elaborate?
- Is the “updated RDS*” protocol mentioned on line 371 the same as the RDS* protocol in the prior paragraph, or is the RDS* protocol now updated somehow?
- Is it meaningful to compare UCI2 and UCIZ*, since both the MDS and UCI changed?
- It seems Table 4 bottom right still discusses UCI2*, but that the data isn’t shown—should it be removed?
Minor comments
- Text in Figure 2Corr is too small to be legible.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-2022-631-RC1 - AC1: 'Reply on RC1 & RC2', Michael Prather, 09 Nov 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on acp-2022-631', Anonymous Referee #2, 02 Nov 2022
As a reviewer of the original submission, I find myself unsure how to approach the current version of the article. Has the original submission been withdrawn and should the current version be viewed in isolation, or should the current version be seen as a correction to the original? There is, what I believe to be, mention of the original publication and errors that were found after publication in a couple of places in the current version of the manuscript. For example, at lines 299 – 304, the authors write:
‘After publication and with continued analysis of the unusually reactive East Pacific region, we determined that the method of long-gap filling for NOx resulted in propagation of high NOx levels from the over-land profiles into the over-water profiles in the tropics. We separated these two set of profiles used for long-gap NOx filling and created an updated MDS-2b. This experience points to the importance of having continuous NOx measurements.’
Then the authors introduce the UCIZ* results, at lines 358 – 362, writing:
‘Unfortunately, these new calculations with the revised protocol (UCI2*, shown in the original published version) are not reproducible and inconsistent with the original CTM version used in P2017, P2018, and the MDS-0 calculations. It appears that either the initial conditions, the ATom-specific version of the UCI CTM, or the retrieval of the 24 h average rates is not correct.’
So I am tempted to believe the current version should be viewed as a resubmission of the original manuscript. In that case, the current version should discuss the errors that were found in the original calculations and the reasons for a new submission in a clear, straightforward manner and in a single place within the current manuscript. Without constantly referring to the original submission to separate, for example, the problems with HNO4 and PAN from the problems with NOx gap filling it is impossible to understand how this version differs from the earlier submission and what motivated a resubmission.
Even with the revisions, the results seem broadly consistent with the earlier submission and about the only new comment on the findings I have is a question about the method. As summarized in Figure 1 and stated in the abstract (lines 53 – 55) ‘We find that 80 %–90 % of the total reactivity lies in the top 50 % of the parcels; and 25 %–35 %, in the top 10 %, supporting previous model-only studies that tropospheric chemistry is driven by a fraction of all the air.’ The air parcels being compared are taken over a latitude band from 53S to 60N, which includes a significant sampling of air from mid to high latitudes. Are the conclusions reached here really that different from those seen in modelling studies that find a large fraction of methane is oxidized in a relatively small portion of the atmosphere. For example, as shown in Figure 8 of Voulgarakis et al. (Analysis of present day and future OH and methane lifetime in the ACCMIP simulations, Atmos. Chem. Phys., 13, 2563-2587, doi:10.5194/acp-13-2563-2013, 2013) over 60% of the global methane oxidation occurs between 30S and 30 N and between the surface and 500 hPa. To what extent does the finding that reactivity is not equally distributed across all parcels reflect heterogeneity at sub-regional scales and how much does it simply reflect the fact that much of the reactivity happens in the tropics where the sun is high and there is lots of water vapour?
Aside from that, my minor comments are itemized below.
Minor comments
Line 63: Missing ‘to’ in ‘can be traced lower NOX levels’.
Line 479: For ‘In the central Pacific (row 1)’, I think ‘row’ should be ‘column’.
Line 603: There is a stand-along bit of text that seems out of place - ‘P-O3.’
Lines 607 – 608: On first (and second) reading I interpreted ‘The extreme eastern Pacific reactivities are seen in the mean values in the legend’ to mean that the values shown on the legend of Figure 5 give the means for the eastern Pacific. I think what you mean to say is ‘The influence of the extreme eastern Pacific reactivities…’
Lines 636 – 637: Speaking of the missing O3 production in the lowest 2 km, the authors state: ‘The occurrence of the same error over the central and eastern Pacific as well as the Atlantic Oceans makes this a robust finding.’ Judging from Figure 3, it is not clear to me that the error is present over the Atlantic Ocean?Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-2022-631-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Michael Prather, 09 Nov 2022
See file attached to RC1 response
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-2022-631-AC2
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Michael Prather, 09 Nov 2022