Articles | Volume 25, issue 22
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-25-16451-2025
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The ACCESS-AM2 climate model underestimates aerosol concentration in the Southern Ocean; improving aerosol representation could be problematic for the global energy balance
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AR by Sonya Fiddes on behalf of the Authors (09 Oct 2025)
The authors test the ability of an aerosol scheme, within an atmospheric model, to simulate Southern Ocean aerosol concentrations and find it lacking in skill, compared to measurements from multiple in-situ campaigns. Implementation of several structural model changes lead to minimal increases in model skill, or regional/seasonal skill increases that are offset by skill reductions in other regions/seasons. The authors suggest a more holistic approach to model development is needed that accounts for multiple aerosol and possibly microphysical process representations simultaneously. Additionally, the authors highlight the need for more aerosol size distribution measurements with which to evaluate the effects of model developments on Southern Ocean aerosol and clouds.
Although the research is informative about potential model development priorities, and could thus make an important contribution to the literature, some aspects of how the article is written need to be addressed before publication:
Title and sub-titles:
The 2nd part of the title is not clearly supported by the results and should be changed to better reflect the paper content.
Sub-title of section 3.4.2 is incorrect. The content describes data processing rather than statistical methods.
Vague language:
Language is imprecise in parts of the article, leaving the reader to guess the author's intended meaning. The discussion section stands out as particularly vague. One key example: in the first paragraph of section 6, the phrase ‘as a whole’ is unexplained, yet this seems to be the primary recommendation of the paper. The authors need to take the time and space to frame their hypothesised model development framework in more detail and with greater clarity to be convincing.
Other examples of vagueness in language that need to be addressed include:
In section 3.1, the description of the model indicates the ACCESS model was run in atmosphere-only mode. So, the model is essentially UM10.6 GA7.1 with GLOMAP-mode, using CMIP6 and CEDS emissions, nudged towards ERA5 data. The coupled aspect of the model seems irrelvant yet ACCESS is framed as the model being evaluated. What is ACCESS actually adding to the simulations?
Line 198 to 202: This meaning of this paragraph is hard to unravel. Clearer language is needed.
Line 304: GLOMAP-mode provides these values, though they may not have been selected by the authors. This description needs to clearly state this was a choice, rather than a model deficiency.
Figure 3 caption: 25th and 75th percentiles of what?
Line 340: Standard deviation of what? Calculated from which data?
Line 463: The meaning of the final sentence is obscure and unreferenced.
Constraint/constrained is used incorrectly in the article. I think the authors mean ‘restricted to’, ‘in’, or ‘limited to’. Constraint has a specific meaning related to model uncertainty.
These is extensive use of accronyms, which may be considered appropriate for some readers, but reduces readability. Particularly, readability is reduced by using accronyms for observation stations.
Presentation of results with more obvious scientific reasonining:
Much of the manuscript needs to be rewritten to highlight key discoveries to the reader. The authors should consider where meaning is assumed and could be clarified. Additionally, the text often contains only statements about model-to-observation comparisons, without interpretation of meaning. Occassionally, statements conflict with results, which suggests they've not been considered deeply.
Some essential changes include:
Section 3.4. The first paragraph here is unneccessary. Nothing of value is added, so this should be removed.
Line 335: First sentence is confusing.
Paragraph starting line 360: In this location, the NPF scheme test is the only sensitivity test to shift the model from biased low to biased high. Some interpretation of results is needed here. This result implies the persistent model bias might be partially overcome by implementing a more sophisticated NPF parametrization. Also, the simplicity of the NPF parametrization needs to be mentioned in this section to help the reader understand why the improvements are spatially restricted.
Section 4 has many long-winded descriptions that do not lead to insights or statements of how the results affect model interpretation.
Section 4.3: There is no mention of the BL NPF sensitivity test here, even though it is the only test to reduce activation ratios.
Line 563: The meaning of the first sentence is incongruous with the results.
Missing detail and context:
As mentioned above, some sections are heavy with text, whilst others lack detail and critical information.
For example, where the Humphries data set is introduced, no context is provided for why it might be better, or more useful, than previous data sets. Furthermore, some sense of the motivation for including the specific sensitivity tests chosen would be extremely useful in the first paragraph of section 3.2. Other specific examples of missing detail/context include:
Line 207: Why are time-varying DMS datasets preferable? Need to say what value is added.
Line 222: ‘underway’ needs a description
Line 317: Why isn’t the assumption made that the gridbox containing the observation would be the best comparison to make? There is no explaination for why the authors are even considering using a gridbox the the SW of the station.
Line379: The authors state ‘This is a key area of development for GLOMAP-mode’. This statement needs to be put in context. The suggested model developments are only important if the priority is a model with increased skill at simulating aerosol concentrations over remote polar regions. The authors have assumed this is the case, with an implied further assumption that aerosol in these regions are more climatically important than aerosol elsewhere.
Section 4.1: Some brief description of the overall under-prediction of CCN concentration and seasonal cycle amplitude, and what this implies should be given up front. Currently, this message is hidden amongst discussion of individual simulations.
Old model version:
The authors have evaluated the impact of structural changes to model parametrizations, using a relatively old version of the GLOMAP-mode aerosol scheme, without reference to published model changes that would affect results. Results in this article need to be discussed with reference to latter model versions and with some consideration of how recent model developments may impact results presented here.
For example, no reference is made to the inclusion and evaluation of primary marine organic aerosol in later model versions. Additionally, sea salt density has been updated, as has deposition velocities via land surface representations, both of which would affect the sensitivity test results.
Figures:
Font size in figures is sometimes too small. Additionally, thicker lines with better color contrast, or some other method, is needed to distinguish between simulations.
On line 511, the authors state they have evaluted other cloud properties, which is essential to make a complete analysis of the impact of the sensitivity tests on aerosol, clouds and aerosol-cloud interactions. Equivalent figures should be included in a supplement, so the reader can interpret the wider effects themselves.
References:
Some additional references that have been overlooked include:
Schutgens et al. (2017) doi.org/10.5194/acp-17-9761-2017 in section 3.4.1
Additional literature evaluating more sophisticated NPF schemes and the climatic effects of those schemes.
The final sentence in section 4.2
Model structural changes implemented after this model version, particularly where they may affect interpretation of results here (e.g. https://gmd.copernicus.org/articles/13/6383/2020/)
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