Articles | Volume 25, issue 22
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-25-16063-2025
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Aircraft in-situ measurements from SOCRATES constrain the anthropogenic perturbations of cloud droplet number
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The work the authors have done shows that accurate measurements of Nd (cloud droplet concentration) from SOCRATES over the Southern Ocean can strongly constrain global Nd perturbations due to anthropogenic aerosol. The authors conclude that while observations of CCN (cloud condensation nuclei) and Nd also provide a strong constraint, observations of CCN alone only provide a minimal constraint.
For this analysis, the authors used integrated particle counts above 100 nm from a UHSAS (N100) as a proxy for CCN, rather than direct measurements of CCN that were made during SOCRATES (Sanchez et al. 2021). The authors cite McCoy et al. (2021) stating that there is a 1:1 relationship between N100 and CCN for SOCRATES, but Figure S2b in that paper shows that N100 only explains ~half of the variance (r = 0.719) in CCN (at 0.2 % supersaturation). The last sentence of the current discussion emphasizes that the strong constraint provided by Nd measurements is only possible when these measurements are accurate. I therefore wonder what the impact on this analysis might be if the direct CCN measurements were used instead of N100. This type of study (which is very interesting) could be useful for guiding the planning and logistics for future field campaigns. The authors touch on these issues briefly in the current manuscript, but it would be useful to get clarification on the following:
References
McCoy, I. L. et al. (2021). Influences of recent particle formation on Southern Ocean aerosol variability and low cloud properties. Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospheres, 126(8), e2020JD033529.
Sanchez, K. J. et al. (2021). Measurement report: Cloud processes and the transport of biological emissions affect southern ocean particle and cloud condensation nuclei concentrations. Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics, 21(5), 3427-3446.