Articles | Volume 25, issue 21
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-25-15047-2025
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Observed and modeled Arctic airmass transformations during warm air intrusions and cold air outbreaks
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- RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2062', Anonymous Referee #1, 06 Jul 2025
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- AC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2062', Manfred Wendisch, 15 Aug 2025
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ED: Publish as is (22 Sep 2025) by Michael Tjernström
AR by Manfred Wendisch on behalf of the Authors (02 Oct 2025)
The manuscript presents a detailed study on Arctic airmass transformations during on-ice and off-ice airflows. The study is based on extensive data set collected during the HALO-AC3 flight campaign mostly over the Barents Sea and Fram Strait. The research aircraft observations, including those made using tethersondes, are strongly supplemented by simulations using the high-resolution numerical weather prediction model ICON and by sophisticated trajectory calculations, including identification of matching trajectories of observations and simulations. According to my knowledge, the material gathered is more extensive than in any previous studies addressing Arctic airmass transformations. The analyses appear carefully made and yielded interesting result on the roles of adiabatic and diabatic processes, the latter including condensation/evaporation, radiative transport, and turbulent surface heat flux. In addition to improved process understanding, the study yielded new information on the performance of the ICON model. I suggest acceptance of the manuscript subject to minor revisions.
Detailed comments:
Introduction: It would be good to clearly summarize the relationship between this manuscript and the papers by Wendisch et al. (2023a, 2023b, 2024) cited in various parts of the manuscript. There seems to be a bit of overlap between them.
Lines 17-18: Be more specific about the 50% decline of the Arctic sea ice cover: extent, thickness or volume? Annual mean of a certain season?
Line 63: Do you mean “In addition to these model difficulties …”?
Line 106-107: It is somewhat misleading to call energy and mass fluxes as surface properties. The fluxes may change in time even if such surface properties as ice concentration and thickness remain constant.
Lines 147-148: Is this a good argument to not consider the drift of drop sondes? A bit less than 30 km may matter quite a lot in the ice-edge zone, in particular during cold-air outbreaks.
Lines 226-227: One would expect that successful modelling of crossing of the ice edge could be a challenge. Hence, it is somewhat surprising that during a warm-air intrusion the ICON model performs somewhat better over sea ice than over the open ocean. On lines 283-284 you refer to systematically better ICON results over the open ocean than sea ice. Any ideas on this?
Line 238: Specify the altitude, as the number (5 K) is probably very sensitive to it.
Lines 267-270: Could the bias be due to challenges in modelling the Lagrangian evolution of the airmass? By “too low reflectivities”, do you mean errors in the PAMTRA algorithm?
Lines 288-291: Near-surface warm bias over Arctic sea ice is indeed common, and I fully agree on the two reasons mentioned in the text. In addition, the warm bias is often related to too large roughness lengths and exchange coefficients applied in parameterization of turbulent surface fluxes under stable stratification (e.g., Cuxart et al., 2006). Also, overabundance of clouds causes excessive longwave heating of the snow/ice surface (Tjernström et al.,2008), which is reflected as a warm bias in near-surface air temperature.
Line 313: humidity change rates
Line 315: What do you exactly mean by “such that the plots are well covered”?
Line 321: Do you mean “moves far enough over the sea ice”?
Lines 341-342: Can you identify the reasons for descending flow upstream and ascending flow downstream in the cases of CAO and WAI?
Figures 6-9: These are excellent figures with so many interesting and interpretable findings! In this respect, I am not sure if Figure 10 is the highlight of this paper (as stated on line 401).
Section 4.2.2: Referring to diabatic effects due to turbulence sounds vague. I suggest writing about convergence of surface sensible heat flux in the case of diabatic heating (divergence in the case of cooling).
Line 383: Fig. 9c
Line 385: Fig.9b
Lines 415-416: But in Figure 9d, near-surface relative humidity decreases downwind over sea ice. Any comment on this?
Line 425: This is interesting, as in many models the turbulent exchange coefficients for the turbulent surface fluxes of heat and moisture are identical. Is this the case also in ICON? Naturally the underestimation and overestimation may be related to later advection instead of vertical surface fluxes.
Line 454: the error was smaller rather than better.
Lines 451-474: To make it easier for a reader, I suggest dividing this long paragraph into two or three paragraphs, perhaps starting on lines 460 and 466.
Lines 483-488: Considering true Lagrangian observations, the potential of controlled meteorological balloons deserves to be mentioned. There are papers by, e.g., Lars Hole and Paul Voss.
References
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