Articles | Volume 25, issue 20
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-25-13161-2025
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the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.Comparing multi-model ensemble simulations with observations and decadal projections of upper atmospheric variations following the Hunga eruption
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1505', Christopher Smith, 01 Jul 2025
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This paper introduces a multi-model study (can we call it a MIP?) of the stratospheric projections following the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai (HTHH) eruption. Its utility arises from including both the water vapour and the aerosol components of the HTHH injection and using models that resolve ozone loss, therefore allowing (potentially - see comment below on radiative forcing) for the net climate impact of this eruption to be evaluated. It confirms that the water vapour perturbation is longer-lived than the stratospheric aerosol perturbation, potentially leading to a slight surface warming as a consequence (not evaluated). The model results are compared to the MLS data for water vapour and ozone and GloSSAC for stratospheric aerosol, showing good correspondence.
With the end of life of the MLS instrument and uncertainty around a suitable replacement platform, this MIP might be the best source of information available to estimate and project forward the evolution of the HTHH water vapour plume at a very critical time during a gap in the satellite observations. Therefore I fully support this initiative.
Please if possible could you analyse the effective radiative forcing from these results? It would simply be the global mean TOA net radiation change from 2022 and subsequent years compared to the no-HTHH runs in each model in the fixed SST runs. Splitting out the all-forcing and H2O-only forcing runs where models performed the latter would also be really useful. This help add to the discussion on whether HTHH is a net warming or net cooling climate influence.
Line 42: How does the “anomaly” duration differ from the e-folding duration? The anomaly perhaps being the period of time for which a non-zero increase in stratospheric water vapour is detectable?
Line 44: “local” cooling: in the sense of ULTS, rather than the surface? Please be explicit. (since this paper will be interesting to readers who are not upper atmosphere focused, like myself).
Line 127: there’s probably good reasons, but why limit to the 2012-21 climatology from MLS when data goes back to 2004?
Lines 135-138: I understand from reading the Randel et al (2024) reference why the temperature from MLS was detrended. It kind of makes sense, though not described how it was done, that QBO and ENSO are removed from the record since free-running models will generate their own variability patterns that will unlikely sync with that of the real world. Was the solar forcing (i.e. from CMIP6) an input forcing to the models? I presume not, since this has been taken out of the MLS data. And how did you account for the fact that the solar cycle isn't a monotonic trend?
Section 3.3: could you rename to “Global mean stratospheric air temperature evolution” or similar to reduce ambiguity – just because it’s not what I would define as global mean temperature, which commonly relates to the surface or near-surface air temperature. (similar comment to line 44). Similarly I recommend deleting “global mean” in line 362 and in figure 4.
Line 417: “et la” to “et al”
Data availability: please give more information on how to obtain the data from JASMIN: I ask as somebody who is interested in the results.