Articles | Volume 24, issue 16
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-24-9177-2024
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Investigation of the impact of satellite vertical sensitivity on long-term retrieved lower-tropospheric ozone trends
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- Final revised paper (published on 22 Aug 2024)
- Supplement to the final revised paper
- Preprint (discussion started on 04 Jan 2024)
- Supplement to the preprint
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Comment types: AC – author | RC – referee | CC – community | EC – editor | CEC – chief editor
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-3109', Anonymous Referee #1, 18 Jan 2024
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Richard Pope, 30 May 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-3109', Helen Worden, 30 Jan 2024
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Richard Pope, 30 May 2024
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CC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-3109', Owen Cooper, 10 Feb 2024
- AC3: 'Reply on CC1', Richard Pope, 30 May 2024
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AR by Richard Pope on behalf of the Authors (05 Jun 2024)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (07 Jun 2024) by Jianzhong Ma
RR by Anonymous Referee #1 (12 Jun 2024)
RR by Helen Worden (20 Jun 2024)
ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (21 Jun 2024) by Jianzhong Ma
AR by Richard Pope on behalf of the Authors (24 Jun 2024)
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This work by Pope et al. has a promising title and research goal, but fails to meet its expectations. Large parts of the methodology are flawed or missing (see critical points), and the overall presentation is too vague or even sloppy (see comments on presentation). This work does not properly answer its research questions as a result. I cannot recommend it for publication in its present format.
Critical points:
Why apply bias correction factors for trend studies? This is especially questionable if their construction involves ‘application’ of the averaging kernels that are under study! If this operation allows for more ‘like-for-like comparisons’ indeed, it should be rigorously and analytically explained in the main text, as a key methodology part of the paper.
Why involve a model and apply the averaging kernels thereto (hence hiding certain information), even without mentioning how, if the retrieval sensitivity can be thoroughly studied and discussed in itself (see Rodgers, 2000)?
The authors at several instances claim that the substantial IASI-FORLI trends are ‘believed’ to be due to changing meteorological input to the data processing in September 2010. The obvious check of doing independent trend studies before and after this change is missing.
It is agreed with the authors that “Ideally, this analysis would have utilised several more records (e.g. several UV-Vis and IR products) to quantify long-term trends in LTCO3 and investigate the potential reasons for any discrepancies, as shown by Gaudel et al., (2018) for TCO3.” At this point, none of these research goals is met. The authors could either focus on trend studies, or investigate whether the observed trends are (partially) due to spatio-temporal sensitivity changes. For the latter, it would suffice to compare ozone column trends with vertical sensitivity trends (without the need for models or bias correction).
Comments on presentation:
First key point: “trends […] show small scale trends” ?
Abstract: “year-to-year sampling is not an issue” is too vague. Do you mean changes in spatio-temporal sampling of satellite observations, or temporal changes in vertical smoothing (and hence apriori contributions) of observations? I see this briefly explained between brackets in the discussion only.
In the introduction and discussion, the authors fail to acknowledge that an important reason for the discrepancies observed by Gaudel et al. (2018) was the use of different tropospheric top level definitions in different satellite products.
All apriori data should be properly introduced and discussed, given its relevance for the results interpretation (e.g. missing seasonality in IASI-FORLI apriori).
What kind of averaging kernels are provided with the IASI-SOFRID L3 product?
C in equation 1 must represent an ozone value, not a month.
In sections 3.1 and 3.2, the essential information is lost in overdetailed number repetition that should be succinctly summarized. Correspondingly, Table 2 should go into the supplement.
Stating that “individual retrievals of LTCO3 are subject to multiple issues (…) which can result in noisy LTCO3 time-series” (lines 377-380) sounds unscientific, and diminishes the efforts done by satellite retrieval teams.
In the discussion, stating that “The IASI-SOFRID LTCO3 and apriori are very similar, with little inter-annual variability, which suggests that the IASI-SOFRID O3 retrieval in this height-range is more constrained by the apriori (i.e. less TO3 sensitivity than the other products).” is not necessarily true. The apriori can be close to the retrieved value, even for a perfect retrieval. Hence, again, the need for proper sensitivity studies, instead of derived quantities.
Why are ozonesondes considered in 30° latitude bins, and not matched with the three regions under study? Moreover, it is not mentioned how many stations / launches are eventually involved.
How are data interpolated between different vertical representations?
Equations 2 and 3 are essentially the same. One should not make a difference based on satellite data formatting, which is irrelevant.
How are IASI sub-columns totaled up the 450 hPa level? Does this require interpolation between levels?
Figure S1: Why are correction factors (multiplicative) expressed in DU?
SM-3 should be part of the discussion (if somehow the model comparison is maintained).
Not all authors are in the Author Contributions.