Articles | Volume 24, issue 11
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-24-6825-2024
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Evaluating the Wegener–Bergeron–Findeisen process in ICON in large-eddy mode with in situ observations from the CLOUDLAB project
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The authors conducted large-eddy simulations to explore the impact of seeding on boundary layer supercooled clouds. The model setup is based on observations in the CLOUDLAB project. They first demonstrated the capability of the model to simulate and reproduce the seeding experiments at different environmental conditions. Then, they investigated the WBF process in the model by changing the INP emission rate. One conclusion is that the WBF process seems to be less efficient in the model than in the field. The conclusion is striking and interesting. One inconsistency is that the seeded cloud is expected to be above the site at 10:30 UTC (see Fig.6). However, in-situ measurements show that ice particles exist at around 10:35 UTC (see Fig. 9). So the apparent less efficient WBF process in the model might be due to some other reasons, e.g., underestimation of the growth time or advection time.
In general, the manuscript is well written and easy to read. I have some minor comments listed below.
Line 113: “both experiments are identical in their setup”. Since both seeding experiments are at the same location, is there any physical reason why there are two seeding experiments on that day? For example, I can understand S25-2, S25-2.5, S25-3 can test the impact of distance (growth time), but what about S26-2.5a and S26-2.5b? What can we learn from these two experiments?
Line 149: “The frequency of model output was set to 5 min”. The ice growth time is between 6 and 9 min (Table 1). Please comment on whether the relatively low output frequency would affect the comparison between observation and simulation.
Table 1: Please also add the seeding height in the table. It is difficult to accurately read the seeding height from Figure 4.
Line 178: “seeding particle emission rate”. Please add more justification of the choice of emission rate. For example, is it based on the estimation of the real seeding experiments, or is it chosen to match the ice number concentration. I find some discussions about it in the later part of the manuscript, but it is better to add some justifications here.
Line 235: “There is a good qualitative agreement between …” What is the scanning frequency of the radar? How does reflectivity from the scanning radar look like e.g., 5 min before and 5 min after 10:30 UTC? Can the radar observation show the impact of cloud seeding?
Line 296, 345 “(not shown)” is not accepted nowadays. Please consider adding the figure in the supplementary material or rephrase the sentence.
Line 296. “The ice crystal number concentrations are in good agreement (within +-0.3 cm-3) with observations in 4 out of 5 simulations.” What I see is that the simulated median ICNC is one order of magnitude smaller than the observation, while the maximum value is similar. Even if the median ICNC is 0 from the model, the uncertainty is still within 0.3 cm-3. So I think this statement is not accurate.