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Variation in chemical composition and volatility of oxygenated organic aerosol in different rural, urban, and mountain environments
Wei Huang
Linyu Gao
Yvette Gramlich
Sophie L. Haslett
Joel Thornton
Felipe D. Lopez-Hilfiker
Ben H. Lee
Junwei Song
Harald Saathoff
Xiaoli Shen
Ramakrishna Ramisetty
Sachchida N. Tripathi
Dilip Ganguly
Feng Jiang
Magdalena Vallon
Siegfried Schobesberger
Taina Yli-Juuti
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- RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1821', Anonymous Referee #1, 02 Oct 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1821', Anonymous Referee #2, 04 Oct 2023
General comment
The authors present evaluations of a combination of aerosol field data taken in 5 different regions of the world (India, Germany, Bolivia, USA, Finland). The central instrumentation is FIGAERO-CIMS, a method often applied in field and laboratory studies. Some seasonal aspects are addressed for the Bolivian and German data sets.
The focus is on comparison of campaign averages for vapor pressures / volatility in relation to particle composition and some other atmospheric parameters. The data set the paper is based on represents a lot of work and effort and is quite impressive.
The manuscript is well written and well organized. The presented material is well chosen and suited to support the discussions and results presented in the manuscript. The manuscript is interesting to read in that presents some critical aspects of vapor pressure and volatility determinations.
The difficulty of the manuscript lies in selection of observations (sites). I believe that they are too singular in time and space to conclude something from the comparison with respect to particle properties in the atmosphere. (I understand that such observations are limited.) This prevents conclusions but very general ones. That is probably the reason why the authors focus more on the methodological aspects. However, whenever they found something interesting, which may be related to atmospheric processes, they step back and question the relations by referring to the experimental difficulties and operational aspects of FIGAERO measurements. The best indication is the statement on page 12 beginning in line 387 and ending in line 398.
And I am not sure if the results support the conclusion that just more efforts (“alternative approaches”) are needed “for more quantitative estimations of volatility from FIGAERO-CIMS measurements” (line 534f). Overall, I would say the conclusions are bit weak regarding the atmospheric aspects.
I would still suggest to publishing the paper in ACP as it addresses important aspects and limits of FIGAERO approaches, which should be realized by a broader community. I suggest that authors should address the minor aspects below.
Minor comments
I would say that “volatility” of/in a mixture depends on the chemical composition, i.e. on the vapor pressure of the components, and the physical conditions, mainly the temperature. Translated to atmospheric situations this means that chemical composition depends on emissions and the atmospheric chemistry on the way to the observation point and the physical conditions depend on the let’s say the (local) meteorology. Since you are looking at campaign averages (“bulk apparent volatility of OOA particles”) you are looking at a kind of a systemic property of aerosol particles, but what you are searching for is still the physical aspects of vapor/pressure of an ensemble of compounds. However, in re-constructing the systemic volatility from the individual components, one is a priori limited by the mass spectrometric approach, which can give (here) chemical formulas at best, and the limits of vapor pressure information for the individual compounds or detected formulas. (On top the operational aspects of FIGAERO measurements.)
Could it be that what you tried in this manuscript is inherently an impossible task? A way out could be to drive everything empirically and relate the observations to classes of conditions. However, for that the presented data set is too particulate. Could you explain or justify explicitly your approach using campaign averages?
Independently, I am asking myself when the use of campaign averages make sense. Naively, I would say if you had a bimodal distribution of conditions for example, then the campaign average cannot be observed by measurement. This would be different for a simple monomodal distribution of conditions where is a certain chance to indeed observe the campaign average. Can you comment on that?
line 385: Please can you shortly explain in the experimental sections what sum thermograms are, for non- FIGAERO users. What is exactly is summed in a sum thermogram?
line 399- 431: Shouldn’t sumTmax tell us something about the persistency of the particles, when they are moving out of the source region?
line 432-448: If I understand correctly, this questions the approach using Li et al. vapor pressure parametrization. If so, that should be mentioned.
line 456f: Here you show something interesting, but you discuss it away. If you don’t trust the finding, why mentioning it?
Figure 2: Please, take out the legend from the figure. It is hiding information. Could you tabulate the values of log10Csat in Table S1?
Figures S4 and S8: It could be helpful to correlate log(Csat) and sumTmax also with the campaign averages of the OA mass concentrations. For ideal mixtures, those determine the critical threshold which "vapor pressures" are sufficient for a compound to remain in the condensed phase. And that should be related to the bulk apparent volatility of OOA particles. The data look like a correlation and if so, that should be mentioned in the main manuscript.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-1821-RC2 - AC1: 'Response to all referee comments on egusphere-2023-1821', Wei Huang, 21 Dec 2023
Organic aerosols are a major contributor to total aerosol mass concentrations and have implications for both human health and climate change. However, the formation of these aerosols is a complex supersaturation-driven process, involving highly dynamic vapor-particle interactions. Therefore, constraining the volatility of condensable vapors and the associated particles is critical for understanding the underlying oxidative chemistry and for better representation of organic aerosols in air quality models.
This paper presents data from ambient measurements of the chemical composition and thermogram of organic aerosols in various environments using the online and offline FIGAERO-CIMS methods. In addition, the authors estimated the particle volatility using a volatility parameterization and compared it with the thermal desorption profile in the lumped thermogram. The research topic of this paper is novel, the dataset is comprehensive, and the measurement techniques are state-of-the-art. Overall, this is a relevant study that fits within the scope of the ACP. However, the way the results are interpreted and discussed needs major revision to improve scientific rigor and to make it clearer to non-specialist readers. Here are my major comments:
“we achieve a comprehensive picture of the relationship between volatility and chemical composition of OOA particles”, what is the exact relationship?
“however, the effects on the bulk molecular composition and sum thermograms of all detected OOA compounds are small as these thermally-unstable oligomers do not dominate the OOA mass.” I would suggest the authors reword it because 35.9% is not small.
“and that environmental conditions (e.g., ambient temperature) play a lesser, secondary role through their influence on sources and chemistry of a particular environment,” I don’t think any strong conclusions can be drawn about source and chemistry, because there are no analysis of source apportionment and oxidative chemistry.
“Our study thus provides new insights that will help guide choices of e.g. descriptions of OOA volatility in different model frameworks” The authors would need to explain more about this.