This is a revised version of a paper dealing with an extensive analysis of the vertical structure of the Arctic lower troposphere, and especially the boundary layer (BL), from the MOSAiC year-long field campaign. Let me start by saying that the revised version is a clear improvement to the original manuscript and there is a lot of interesting new information.
That being said it is still not a great paper and this is sad because it could be a great paper. So, at this juncture the choice is whether to accept an extensive paper that has several flaws, in which case some revisions are still necessary, or if yet another major revision is required to make this the really great paper it could become. I will recommend major revision, because I want to maintain a high standard, especially when it is possible, but ultimately this is an editorial decision.
Major concerns
The first thing that becomes obvious is that the extensive scope of the paper is a problem. For one it is quite long; close to 40 pages including figures and references (although the review manuscript is longer than necessary depending on how the figures are set). There are three reasons for this: 1) A quite long introduction and methods section; 2) that the manuscript is actually two studies merged together, and; 3) the inclusion of some other related data to the analysis of vertical structure (low-level jets (LLJs) & clouds) at the end.
The introduction (~3 pages) reviews almost anything that one could think of being done previously on the topic and is written quite long. It also cover topics that are not at the center of this paper, such as decoupling, and I’m, sure it could be shortened by 30%. There is a 12-line paragraph on page 2 that deals with decoupling, which is important – indeed suggested even to be “typical” (I would have settled for common)"- however, the methods used in this paper makes it impossible to separate out decoupled BL clouds in this study. So even if it is indicated to be important in the introduction, there is no feed-back to this from the results in the study, nor are there any comments on this. By using a bulk-Richardson approach to determine the BL depth only the lower coupled layer will be detected. When this is later used as a criterium in the profile analysis, that seals the deal, although several of the upper-left SOM nodes clearly indicate what this reviewer interprets as a clear case of decoupling; a layer of high static stability – presumably a capping inversion – much higher than the indicated BL depth. At the very least this should be discussed. Also, while focusing on thermal stability, very little is discussed about the moisture structure. For example, what about moisture inversions; another feature where the Arctic seems to be special.
This brings me to the duality of the study; the SOM part and the criterium-based analysis. It seems to this reviewer that the former is not at all necessary for latter and that instead this mix causes problems with the narrative of the paper. That doesn’t at all mean the SOM analysis is pointless; in fact, I think that the SOM analysis, with a more in-depth discussion of the results, would make a very nice paper all by itself. The text argues that the SOM analysis is a prerequisite for the formulation of the criteria later used, but I see very little of that.
This also leads to another peculiarity. First in the methods section (section 2.4), where the SOM analysis is referred to in a “hand-waiving” manner long before any of the SOM results are even presented, let alone discussed. Second, in Section 3.1 where the SOM results are now described already having defined the SOM nodes in terms if the stability classes, that here have not yet been presented and discussed. Either the stability classes a re dependent on the SOM analysis, and then you need to present those, followed by how they inform the stability classes and then discuss those. Or you define the stability classes first, then do the SOM analysis and then identify where they fit. Now you’re trying to do both and the result is confusing.
In the end, very little quantitative information from the SOM makes it into the criterium selection. If the authors actually did use quantitative results from the SOM directly informing the criterium selection in the vertical-structure statistics analysis, that needs to be much discussed in detail and how this is handled in the narrative needs to be clearer. That this doesn’t seem to be the case is borne out by the results. There are very few WS cases; for some seasons there are only a hand-full or less and even annually there’s one class with only 9 cases. Is there a point in having a specific criteria that hardly ever happens? To me this seems to be proof that the criteria was not determined objectively.
At the end, the inclusion of the LLJ & clouds into the analysis is also not uninteresting, but somewhat superficial and doesn’t add much to the results in general. Almost a page of the introduction (page 3) discusses LLJs and how they can form and LLJs are also taking up almost half a page in the methods section. Also, the cloud information if very superficial; how much clouds (a few octas, scattered or overcast) and how are multi-layer clouds treated? Together the LLJ and cloud section adds 3 pages and two complex figures to an already long paper without adding too much new information on the physics, aside from the frequencies of occurrence.
In summary, the content of this paper holds great potential. The novelty of the SOM analysis is however underutilized and the SOM results could have been discussed in much more detail. The criterium-based vertical structure analysis, which I think is the core of this paper, does not really build on the SOM analysis, although some of the results refer back to it. Criterium-based studies are not really very novel but is here more detailed and extensive. But having both in the same paper in this way is at best confusing and is causing the paper to be very long. The addition of the LLJ and cloud analysis at the end makes it even longer without adding very much; both these aspects deserve better. So even if I’m typically not a fan of 2-part-papers, this is a case where I would advocate that method: Part I with the SOM analysis and a Part II with the vertical structure analysis, extended with the moisture profiles and a deeper analysis of the LLJs and cloud information.
And possibly as a side issue, and not being a native English speaker, the wind speed can be “large” or “small”. The wind may be “strong” or “weak”. Bu neither are “fast” or “slow”.
Detailed issues:
Lines 45-47: If this is an explanation of the so-called lase-rate feedback, it needs another attempt. The surface heat fluxes have very little to do with Arctic warming; that is determined at the top of the atmosphere. The key issue here is the almost-total absence of deep convection.
Lines 56-60: This was a really looong sentence; I’m sure it can be broken up in two or three.
Line 61: To me, “typical” means “very often”, almost always. Studies indicate maybe 30% of the time, so I would say “often” instead.
Lines 66-67: And how would this work? To me its not evident so a little more here would be nice
Lines 68-71: Maye also a bit long; shorten or divide if you can.
Lines 92-93: The very few direct studies of turbulence on top of a low-level jet that this reviewer has seen doesn’t seem to indicate very much mixing.
Line 97: Does “current paper” mean this manuscript? That begs the question, similar how?
Line 94: Is the fact that models have a lower frequency surprise? Is there an explanation for this; comment please!
Lines 133-134: Strange mix of “firstly” and “additionally”. If you use “first” there has to be a “second”. If you use “additional”, “first” is not necessary
Lines 144-145: Change “with the result being being” to “resulting in”.
Line 151: Discussion about Level 2 and 3 sounding data is meaningless without a description.
Lines 157-161: This discussion is meaningless without more information. What data sheet is that?
Figure 1: The makers are not seen with this resolution, so maybe use a line instead. Also, some of the yellow parts of the legs fade away into the white paper.
Lines 168-170: This was a weird explanation of the “friction velocity”. It is not a “theoretical wind speed”; it is a velocity scale derived directly from the momentum flux. It does not express the “magnitude of turbulence”; it is perfectly possible to have high turbulence and friction velocity, for example of turbulence is dominated by buoyancy.
Lines 172-175: Using the eddy-covariance momentum flux gives exactly the momentum flux and nothing else; this has nothing to do with latent heat flux! There may be other reasons for using the bulk flux formulas, but this is not one of them!
Lines 211-212: Would be useful to know how much data was lost when retaining 1377 soundings. Does this number include any inetsive period with more than 6-hourly? 1377 divided by 4 gives a little over 344; very close to the 352 of a full year.
Lines 213-215: First, a bit more detail would be appreciated; the term “bulk” here can refer either to a finite difference across two layers (in contrast o a real derivative) or between a layer and the surface. Second, if the latter (which I tend to believe) this means, as far as I can see, that the BL top detected will be that of the lower surface-based layer and will not capture a decoupled but turbulent layer aloft, unless the decoupled layer is less than 20 meters on top. You need to be clear about this. The text in lines 218-220 is not enough, since this is such a central issue.
Line 222: What do you mean by “below”? The wind at the surface below is zero, right?
Lines 231-234: This doesn’t make sense to me. If you include cases where the LLJ is less than 25% larger than then the next minimum, how does that make you include high-wind environments? Or should it be “low” on line 234.
Line 254: Is this correct? The figure seems to indicate the SOM is applied to the gradient of v (see Lines 284-285).
Line 277: “in the 1377”
Line 285: Subtracting the value at 1 km does not make the result an “anomaly”.
Line 287: What do you mean by “distinguished”? Maybe the wrong word?
Line 289-230: Wouldn’t it be easier to calculate the specific humidity, then v and if necessary linearly interpolate that directly, rather than calculating the pressure separately with the hypsometric equation?
Line 300: Again, subtracting the value at 1 km from a profile doesn’t make the result an “anomaly”. Just a difference.
Section 2.3 starts out by discussing relationships with a SOM analysis from which no results have yet been presented and discussed.
Lines 326-335: Maybe just language, but in the definition of the criteria, how come “mixed” is used for something more stable than “weakly stable”? In my book “mixed” is a synonym to “near neutral”.
Line 338: “… we there …” – drop “we”.
Lines 364-365: I don’t understand “… was never observed in an individual MOASiC profile …”.. There seems to be several NN-like profiles in the upper left of the SOM.
Line 394-396: Isn’t the number of SOM-patterns representing a certain stability a bit beside the point, as they are not equally populated?
Line 458: “Drop “in descending order” – pretty obvious if you read.
Line 475: What is df?
Figure 5 and corresponding discussion: Well, now when you look at the results, compared to the other classes, there are very few WS cases, correct? For some seasons there are only a hand-full or less and even annually there’s one class with 9 cases. Does that tell you anything about the validity of the stability criteria? Is there a point in having a criterion that is so specific that it hardly ever happens?
Line 577: in a coupled system, the cloud is mixed all the way to the cloud top; not the cloud base.
Line 582-584: This statement is so weak that it is entirely useless. Essentially all boundary layers are capped by an inversion, except for the stable boundary layer which is inside an inversion. Hence, there is always a stable layer in the lower troposphere regardless of what the boundary layer looks like. The distinction here is not the stable layer; it is the height. In the tropics you may have to go to several km to find the capping inversion, over the extratropical land maybe 1-3 km on a sunny summer day. The stability of the boundary layer is determined by the stability in the boundary layer. And that is not dominated by stable conditions. How hard is that to say?
Lines 616-628: This paragraph is very speculative, to the point that I think it should be dropped. First, the discussion about how a LLJ is formed in relation to the LLJ core height and BL depth is very hand-waiving to say the least. Second, it is also dependent on the definition of the BL-height which here is not the same as the capping inversion depth. In all cases where there is a decoupling, one may find the LLJ at the top of the turbulent layer associated with the decoupled cloud and that would not necessarily be a sign of baroclinicity.
Line 638: If you mention the ASR, you will have to tell the reader what that is and why its resolution is lower. |