Articles | Volume 23, issue 17
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-23-9853-2023
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New particle formation in the tropical free troposphere during CAMP2Ex: statistics and impact of emission sources, convective activity, and synoptic conditions
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Xiao et al. present an in-depth analysis of potential NPF in the free troposphere (FT) sampled during 19 research flights within the Camp2Ex campaign investigating the phenomenology of NPF in the tropical free troposphere. Using k-means clustering and the ratio of enhancement in methane to that in CO for grouping the observed appearances of sub-10 nm particles into background, biomass-burning related and urban influenced. Investigations of NPF in the FT are of high relevance as NPF might be a major source of CCN especially over the open oceans and the tropics and the mechanisms leading to NPF in the FT are still poorly understood due to the complex interplay of emissions, oxidation pathways, updrafts, and cloud processing of precursor vapors. Therefore, I find the presented manuscript well-suited for publication in Atmos. Chem. Phys. However, while the general approaches chosen in the manuscript are solid, I am currently missing the clarity in the results section due to too many Figures and some potential misconceptions which need to be addressed before I can recommend publication in Atmos. Chem. Phys.
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Page 2, 56-57: Please provide a reference for that statement.
Page 3, line 90: “from the perspective of galactic cosmic rays”. What is this supposed to mean? GCRs are known to enhance NPF of weakly binding systems such as H2SO4+NH3 and HOMs. The work of the CLOUD team (Kirkby et al., 2011 and 2016, Nature) should be mentioned as they have provided the most thorough investigations of the role of GCRs in NPF so far.
Page 3, line 107: In accordance with the guidelines of ACP, please refrain from citing unpublished references. See guide for authors: “Works cited in a published manuscript should be published already, accepted for publication, or available as a preprint with a DOI”.
Page 5, line 134-135: “combined size distribution from multiple instruments, including FIMS and LAS”. Are FIMS and LAS the only instruments combined here than delete “multiple instruments, including”, or were there other instruments incorporated in that combined size distribution than mention them explicitly before. Were the size-distributions just added as the instruments covered different size-ranges or was there some combining instrument inversion applied?
Page 5, line 149: How is the uncertainty of the ratio defined? By the variance of the data within the 10 second interval, or by some pre-set error on the estimates of N>3nm and N>10nm? Please specify.
Page 6, line 160-161: Such periods are often called “undefined” in typical NPF studies.
Table 2: It could be useful to also give the data ranges for the different mean values and clusters.
Page 7, line 183-189: In the absence of an accessible version of DiGangi et al. (see above comment) this needs to be more detailed as this is a central part of how the different NPF occurrences have been specified.
Page 7, line 186: Here you speak about 4 regimes, but mixed urban/biomass burning is not mentioned again at any later stage in the manuscript and does not appear in Fig. 4.
Page 8, line 221-223: If we call these events undefined, this could be used here and would make the sentence better accessible to the reader.
Page 9, line 233: “impact” might not be the best word to use here as surface area and airmass as NPF is a result of airmass, surface area and other factors. Maybe “interplay”?
Figure 2: As you discuss the panels in the different order in the text, it makes sense to swap the current panels b and c.
Page 10, line 271: “was elevated compared to all the other other clusters” is also true and maybe even more important.
Page 10, line 272: These were the MT flights. Could be mentioned that those were at overall different meteorological conditions.
Page 11, line 275: should be 1, 3 and 4!
Page 13, line 329 – Page 14, line 344: This paragraph is difficult to follow and rather lengthy. As I suggest moving Fig. 6 to the SI, it could be shortened: The main message here is: cluster #1 has high UV, occurs at noon and has a higher CS. In contrast, cluster #2 has low UV, is at the morning and has a lower CS. Investigation of the occurrence of times with such low CS shows that such periods occur more often in the early morning than in the late afternoon and the NPF frequency for mornings is higher than for the late afternoons, which indicates that the newly formed particles are indeed formed in the early morning and are not related to NPF from the previous day.
Page 16, line 398-399, Fig. S4: I do not see these trends from Fig. S4. N>100 nm seems to be quite similar between the two periods. What do you mean by “as high as when NPF was absent”. Please clarify. Please also change the x-axis label of the Fig. S4 (strange unit, what does 27 hours mean? Just put a normal time axis there).
Page 17, line 402: Here the focus could be more on NPF by adding “(…) and mixtures of sulfuric acid ammonia and organic vapors are shown to be efficient new particle formation agents (Lehtipalo et al., 2018, Sci. Adv.)” right after the reference to Ahern et al. (2019).
Page 23, line 503: Please also refer to newer studies investigating NPF in highly polluted environments, e.g. Yao et al., 2018 (Science).
Page 23, line 504-506: Could temperature be decisive here? Especially when organics are involved in the formation process there is an interplay between the degree of oxidation and volatility which both depend strongly on temperature. If oxidation occurs at lower altitudes and high T, highly oxygenated molecules might form which are however still not able to condense onto the smallest clusters at that temperature, but during updraft and cooling of the airmass this might become possible. This should be discussed in the manuscript. You could refer to Stolzenburg et al. 2018 (PNAS) for these competing processes.