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Role of K-feldspar and quartz in global ice nucleation by mineral dust in mixed-phase clouds
Marios Chatziparaschos
Nikos Daskalakis
Stelios Myriokefalitakis
Nikos Kalivitis
Athanasios Nenes
María Gonçalves Ageitos
Montserrat Costa-Surós
Carlos Pérez García-Pando
Medea Zanoli
Mihalis Vrekoussis
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RC1: 'Comment on acp-2022-551', Anonymous Referee #1, 05 Oct 2022
Review of “Role of K-feldspar and quartz in global ice nucleation by mineral dust in mixed-phase clouds” by Chatziparaschos et al.
General comment:
The present study evaluated the importance of K-feldspar and quartz in ice nucleation and mixed-phase cloud formation. To do so, the authors used the global 3-dimensional chemistry-transport model TM4-ECPL where different parametrizations were added to fulfill the proposed objectives. The performance of the model was found to be satisfactory taking into account the associated uncertainties. The author found that besides K-feldspar, quartz can be a good source of INPs at specific locations, altitudes and temperatures with a good potential to impact mixed-phase and cirrus clouds. The present study provides new evidence on the importance of mineral dust particles in cloud formation. Additionally, the used approach can open future studies in the cloud physics community. Although the Introduction and Methodology sections are well written, this is not the case for Results and Discussion section. Therefore, the present manuscript can be accepted after the following comments are properly addressed.
Major comments:
- There are several parts where the same information is repeated. I invite the authors to avoid redundancy.
- Figures are called in a random way making very difficult to follow the manuscript. Although most of the text is well written, the way Figures are incorporated into the text is not appropriate and needs to be fixed to improve de readability of the manuscript.
- Section 4 is very confusing and needs to be deeply edited.
- The figures and Tables added to the Supplementary material need to be used in a better way to support the discussions on the main text. Most of them are just briefly mentioned with a lack of a scientific discussion.
Minor comments:
Lines 24-26: “Mineral dust emitted from arid regions, particularly potassium-containing feldspar (K-feldspar), has been shown to be the most efficient INP through immersion freezing in mixed-phase clouds.” This is not completely true, as the most efficient INPs, in terms of the freezing temperature, are biological particles.
Line 34 and along the manuscript: “(low-level clouds)”. With low-level clouds the authors mean liquid clouds? If yes, this sentence is not correct as the CCN abilities were not evaluated in the present study.
Lines 48-49: “Ice nucleation in clouds proceeds by homogeneous freezing of liquid droplets at temperatures lower than −37°C” How about RHi?
Lines 49-50: “triggered by INP at warmer temperatures” How about RHi?
Line 64: “(e.g., Georgakaki et al., 2022; Sotiropoulou et al., 2021)”. I suggest to cite older/pioneering studies.
Line 78: “have been proposed to act as INP”. The word “proposed” is incorrect as there is very clear evidence that they can act as INP.
Line 108: I suggest to add a brief description about the immersion freezing definition.
Lines 151-153: How about the particle’ density?
Lines 178-180 and along the manuscript: Either use “parametrization” or “parametrisation”
Line 231 and along the manuscript: Figures need to be called chronologically, starting with Figure S1.
Lines 310-311: “4b). As shown in Figure 4a, these points correspond to measurement temperatures around -20oC and -25oC.” I do not get this.
Line 351 and Figure 1: “to activate and form INP”. An aerosol particles has the capability or not to act as INP but INPs do not form.
Line 368: I suggest to replace “there are quartz INP sources” to “could be quartz INP sources”
Lines 373-379: I suggest to merge this lines with lines 362-365.
Line 383: “600hPa” Why not at 800 hPa as in previous sections?
Lines 388-389: “Total INP ([INP]total) maximizes approximately at 600-500hPa (Figure 8a)”. I do not get this. At what latitude and temperature do the authors refer to?
Line 389: “where K-feldspar derived INP is the largest fraction of INP concentration”. Again, at what latitude and temperature do the authors refer to?
Lines 391-392: “are calculated at lower altitudes”. Please indicate the temperature range.
Line 391: “quartz's high number concentration”. Please cite literature indicating that the Gobi Desert is a good source of quartz.
Lines 394-395: “At temperatures below −25°C, the quartz contribution becomes increasingly important with decreases in temperature at high INP concentrations” I do not get this.
Lines 400-401: “and is far from emission sources.” It is unclear to me.
Line 401: “Figure S5 for Eurasia”. This is the only mention for this Figure and it deserves to be deeper discussed
Lines 423-424: “Consideration of quartz-derived INP is improving the comparison with observations for high INP concentrations at low temperatures and relatively low INP concentrations at temperatures around -20oC”. I do not get this.
Line 434: The H-M mechanism usually takes place around -5°C, therefore, it may not be of high importance for the temperatures evaluated here.
Figure 3: From the figure caption my understanding is that panel (a) should have two colors only.
Figure 4: “[INP]T” and “m-3”. Fix this.
Figure 6 and along the manuscript. Are the authors referring to K-feldspar or all types of feldspar?
Figure S3: The Figure legend covers some sampling sites
Figure S7: Should “This figure is related to Fig 3.” Be “This figure is related to Fig 4.”?
Table S3: This is not mentioned in the main text
Technical comments:
Line 17: It should be Switzerland
Line 57: Add a reference after “forcing”
Line 82: I suggest to replace Hoose et al. (2010a) by Hoose and Mohler (2012).
Line 92: Add a reference after “density”
Line 109: “(Westbrook and Illingworth, 2013)”I suggest to add a more appropriate reference here, and additionally, it is out of place.
Line 124: Add a reference after “scavenging”
Line 166: Add a reference after “sieving”
Line 180: Replace “as ice nuclei particles” with “INP”
Line 190: Add a reference after “surfaces”
Line 245: Replace “3.2” with “Section 3.2”
Line 278: “2022) _databases” Fix this.
Line 314: “low temperatures”. Specify low temperatures.
Line 337: “see also Supplementary Figure S8)” There is not Figure S8 in the supplementary material.
Line 379: “concertation”. Fix this.
Line 396: Should “(Figure 8a)” be “(Figure 8b)”?
Lines 399, 416, 417: Add a reference after “K-feldspar”
Line 414: “k-feldspar”. Fix this.
Line 419: What do the authors mean with “global atmosphere”?
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-2022-551-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Maria Kanakidou, 02 Dec 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://acp.copernicus.org/preprints/acp-2022-551/acp-2022-551-AC1-supplement.pdf
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RC2: 'Comment on acp-2022-551', Anonymous Referee #2, 06 Oct 2022
This study by Chatziparaschos et al. used a 3D chemical transport model to predict global concentrations of ice nucleating particles based on an emission model accounting for quantities of quartz and feldspar emitted and parameterisations of the ice nucleating effectiveness of quartz and feldspar. The results of this process are shown to agree reasonably well with field measurements of ice nucleating particle concentrations. The study concludes that the high abundance of quartz particles means that their contribution to INP concentrations is significant, despite the lower ice nucleation ability of quartz compared to ‘K-feldspar’. Conclusions are also drawn about the contributions of the different minerals to low and mid-level clouds. The study is interesting and appears to be well-conducted. I have a few suggestions below but support publication once these are considered. While mostly well-written, the study would benefit from thorough proofreading. I have highlighted various issues below but there are likely more.
General comments:
I think it is worth noting that a great deal is still not known about why quartz and feldspar nucleate ice. In the absence of proper physico-chemical understanding of how these minerals nucleate ice the parameterisations of Harrison et al. remain entirely empirical. It may still turn out that they are not representative for unforeseen reasons. This doesn’t detract from the study but is probably worth mentioning briefly. Relatedly, I think a few words clarifying why it is alkali feldspar (I think use of K-feldspar throughout is fine, although worth noting that some Na-rich feldspar also nucleate ice well), rather than plagioclase feldspars, that are important may be helpful e.g (Kiselev et al., 2021;Whale et al., 2017;Harrison et al., 2016).
The abbreviation INP, is used in various ways throughout. While what is meant is mostly clear it would probably be best to pick a definition and stick with it.
Suggest checking the format of references throughout the text, there is some variation.
Specific comments
Line 23 – INP usually abbreviates Ice Nucleating Particle, with an ‘s’ added for ‘Ice Nucleating Particles’
Line 23 is confusing. Ice nucleation is the first step of ice formation, remove reference to ‘homogeneous formation’
Lines 25 – The word ‘efficient’ implies a ratio. ‘Effective’ or similar would be better here.
Line 26 – It isn’t clear what is meant by ‘ice nuclei’ (Vali et al., 2015). ‘Ice nucleation activity’ would be more typical I think.
Line 34 – I wonder if it might be possible to briefly explain why differences are seen between cloud regimes? This isn’t really discussed in the text either. What causes the differences between quartz and k-feldspar as regards the cloud types they influence?
Line 71 – ‘….concentration of INP’ maybe?
Line 86 – Doesn’t read well if INP means ‘Ice nucleating particles’
Line 89-90 – Kiselev et al. was in 2017 I think?
Line 105 – The singular approximation assumes that each droplet contains a single ice nucleating particle active in a given temperature interval. I don’t think the statement regarding site density is necessarily true.
Line 125 – may be worth briefly noting that solution environment may well substantially impact the ice nucleation effectiveness of both quartz and feldspar e.g. (Kumar et al., 2019;Whale et al., 2018;Klumpp et al., 2022;Whale, 2022).
Line 187 – I wouldn’t call the samples used ‘soil’. Mostly they are mineral samples that have been selected for purity. The point that the samples may not be representative of atmospheric conditions is very true however.
Line 339 – I don’t think Spracklen and Heald looked at marine organic aerosol?
References
Harrison, A. D., Whale, T. F., Carpenter, M. A., Holden, M. A., Neve, L., O'Sullivan, D., Vergara Temprado, J., and Murray, B. J.: Not all feldspars are equal: a survey of ice nucleating properties across the feldspar group of minerals, Atmos. Chem. Phys., 16, 10927-10940, 10.5194/acp-16-10927-2016, 2016.
Kiselev, A. A., Keinert, A., Gaedeke, T., Leisner, T., Sutter, C., Petrishcheva, E., and Abart, R.: Effect of chemically induced fracturing on the ice nucleation activity of alkali feldspar, Atmos. Chem. Phys., 21, 11801-11814, 10.5194/acp-21-11801-2021, 2021
Klumpp, K., Marcolli, C., and Peter, T.: The impact of (bio-)organic substances on the ice nucleation activity of the K-feldspar microcline in aqueous solutions, Atmos. Chem. Phys., 22, 3655-3673, 10.5194/acp-22-3655-2022, 2022.
Kumar, A., Marcolli, C., and Peter, T.: Ice nucleation activity of silicates and aluminosilicates in pure water and aqueous solutions – Part 3: Aluminosilicates, Atmos. Chem. Phys., 19, 6059-6084, 10.5194/acp-19-6059-2019, 2019.
Vali, G., DeMott, P. J., Möhler, O., and Whale, T. F.: Technical Note: A proposal for ice nucleation terminology, Atmos. Chem. Phys., 15, 10263-10270, 10.5194/acp-15-10263-2015, 2015.
Whale, T. F., Holden, M. A., Kulak, A. N., Kim, Y.-Y., Meldrum, F. C., Christenson, H. K., and Murray, B. J.: The role of phase separation and related topography in the exceptional ice-nucleating ability of alkali feldspars, Phys. Chem. Chem. Phys., 10.1039/C7CP04898J, 2017.
Whale, T. F., Holden, M. A., Wilson, T., O'Sullivan, D., and Murray, B. J.: The enhancement and suppression of immersion mode heterogeneous ice-nucleation by solutes, Chem. Sci., 10.1039/C7SC05421A, 2018.
Whale, T. F.: Disordering effect of the ammonium cation accounts for anomalous enhancement of heterogeneous ice nucleation, J. Chem. Phys., 156, 144503, 10.1063/5.0084635, 2022.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-2022-551-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Maria Kanakidou, 02 Dec 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://acp.copernicus.org/preprints/acp-2022-551/acp-2022-551-AC2-supplement.pdf
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Maria Kanakidou, 02 Dec 2022
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AC3: 'final response to reviewers' comments on acp-2022-551', Maria Kanakidou, 02 Dec 2022
We thank the reviewers for carefully reading our manuscript, for their positive evaluation and for their constructive comments. All of them have been considered in the revised version of the manuscript as explicitly described in the point-by-point reply to each reviewer's comments.
We have revised the manuscript to avoid redundancies, reordered the figures, better integrated the supplementary figures in the discussion, restructured and heavily edited section 4. All these changes have improved readability of the manuscript, while our scientific findings did not change.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-2022-551-AC3