Articles | Volume 23, issue 23
https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-23-14829-2023
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Revisiting the question “Why is the sky blue?”
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- Final revised paper (published on 01 Dec 2023)
- Preprint (discussion started on 04 Jul 2023)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1430', Anonymous Referee #1, 02 Aug 2023
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Anna Lange, 15 Sep 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-1430', Anonymous Referee #2, 10 Aug 2023
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Anna Lange, 15 Sep 2023
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General comments
The manuscript by Lange et al. focuses on the question “Why is the sky blue?”. Using radiative transfer modelling, previous findings published in 1953 are confirmed and the impact of Rayleigh scattering and ozone absorption on the colour of the sky is investigated quantitatively.
The manuscript elucidates the reasons for the common phenomenon of a blue sky and confirms that ozone absorption has a significant contribution. Therefore, I feel that the subject of the manuscript is suitable for publication in ACP, although this work probably does not represent not cutting-edge science.
The metric used in this study, namely the distance of the chromaticity coordinates to the white point, does not seem to be suitable for a quantification of the “blueness” of the sky. It only tells whether the sky is less white, but it could as well be more green or red if the distance to the white point increases. Instead, I suggest to simply use z value to quantify blueness. Furthermore, the usage of relative differences (Equation 6) leads to very large values if the sky colour is close to the white point even if the absolute change is small. I would therefore suggest to use absolute differences, in particular for the polar diagrams shown in Figures 3, 5 and 7. Using absolute values would also avoid that many data points have to be dismissed, as it is currently the case for data near the white point.
Each of the panels in Fig. 3, 5 and 7 have different colour scales, which makes a quantitative comparison very difficult for the reader. All panels should have the same colour scale.
Why has the influence of ozone on the colour of the sky not been investigated for SZA > 90°, as in previous studies?
Specific comments
L10: The statement that the contribution of ozone increases with increasing VZA is already explained in L6 and L7 and can therefore be removed.
L79: Please specify the wavelength grid used for the simulation of the spectra.
Section 2.2: Since not every reader is familiar with the definition of the chromaticity coordinates, I suggest to add a graphical representation of the CIE colour matching functions. For example, Fig. 4 could be moved to section 2.2, and the three colour matching functions could be added to this graph. This would also make it clearer why the sky appears bluer in the presence of ozone, although its absorption maximum is in the green.
Section 2.3: As already mentioned in the general comments, I feel that the z coordinate is a better proxy for the blueness of the sky than the distance to the white point, and absolute values would be more appropriate than relative ones. It is not defined how the distance is actually calculated. Is this the Euclidean distance?
It is stated that the method described here is not applicable in all cases. What exactly are the criteria for the applicability of the method and for dismissing particular data points?
L129: I do not understand the purpose of normalising the aerosol number density to 1 particle/cm^3.
L203: It would be good if you could add a discussion on the reasons for the increase of sensitivity to ozone with higher stratospheric aerosol load. Is this due to an increase in average scattering altitude, yielding a longer stratospheric light path, or due to a reduced fraction of Rayleigh scattering in the presence of stratospheric particles?
Conclusions: In order to give proper credit to previous work, it would be good if you could make clear in the conclusions that this work is a confirmation of previous studies on the influence of ozone on the colour of the sky, although your study provides a better quantitative assessment.
Technical comments
L63: I suggest to replace the term SAA with RAA (relative azimuth angle), since it represents the azimuth angle between the viewing direction and the direction of the Sun, whereas SAA usually describes the position of the Sun relative to the North.
Equation 6: the term “relative difference” is inappropriate for a variable name. According to existing conventions (Cohen et al, 2008), variable names should preferably consist of a single letter, such as “r”. Multiplying with the term “100%” on the left side is redundant since 100/100 = 1.
L139: The sentence starting with “The radius of the polar diagram corresponds to…” should be moved to the caption of Figure 3.
Figures 3, 5 and 7 should all have the same colour scale in all panels (see general comments).
L151: “light path” -> “light paths”
L155: “a SZA” -> “an SZA”
L160: “increase” -> “increases”
L162 and caption of Fig. 6: It doesn’t make sense to specify the SAA for zenith measurements (VZA = 0°)
L204: delete “units”
L204: “aerosols” -> “stratospheric aerosols”
References
E.R. Cohen, T. Cvitas, J.G. Frey, B. Holmström, K. Kuchitsu, R. Marquardt, I. Mills, F. Pavese, M. Quack, J. Stohner, H.L. Strauss, M. Takami, and A.J. Thor, "Quantities, Units and Symbols in Physical Chemistry", IUPAC Green Book, 3rd Edition, 2nd Printing, IUPAC & RSC Publishing, Cambridge (2008)