Investigating the cloud radiative effect of Arctic cirrus
- 1Institute of Atmospheric Physics, German Aerospace Center (DLR), Oberpfaffenhofen, Germany
- 2Institute for Energy and Climate Research (IEK-7), Research Center Jülich, Jülich, Germany
- 3Institute for Atmospheric Physics, Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz, Germany
- 1Institute of Atmospheric Physics, German Aerospace Center (DLR), Oberpfaffenhofen, Germany
- 2Institute for Energy and Climate Research (IEK-7), Research Center Jülich, Jülich, Germany
- 3Institute for Atmospheric Physics, Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz, Germany
Abstract. The radiative energy budget in the Arctic undergoes a rapid transformation compared to global mean changes. Understanding the role of cirrus in this system is vital, as they interact with short- and long-wave radiation and the presence of cirrus can be decisive as to a net gain or loss of radiative energy in the polar atmosphere.
In an effort to derive radiative properties of cirrus in a real scenario in this sensitive region, we use in-situ measurements of ice water content (IWC) performed during the POLSTRACC aircraft campaign in the boreal winter and spring 2015/2016 employing the German research aircraft HALO. A large dataset of IWC measurements of mostly thin cirrus at high northern latitudes was collected in the upper troposphere and also frequently in the lowermost stratosphere. From this dataset we selected vertical profiles that sampled the complete vertical extent of cirrus cloud layers. These profiles exhibit a vertical IWC structure that will be shown to control the instantaneous radiative effect both in the long and short wavelength regimes in the polar winter.
We perform radiative transfer calculations with the UVSPEC model from the libRadtran program package in a one-dimensional column between the surface and the top of the atmosphere (TOA), taking as input the IWC profiles, as well as the state of the atmospheric column at the time of measurement, as given by weather forecast products. In parameter studies, we vary the surface albedo and solar zenith angle in ranges typical for the Arctic region. We find the strongest (positive) radiative forcing of cirrus over bright snow, whereas the forcing is mostly weaker and even ambiguous over the open ocean in winter and spring. The IWC structure over several kilometres in the vertical affects the irradiance at the TOA through the distribution of optical thickness. A strong heating rate profile within the cloud drives dynamical processes and contributes to the thermal stratification at the tropopause.
Our case studies highlight the importance of a detailed resolution of cirrus clouds and consideration of surface albedo for estimations of the radiative energy budget in the Arctic.
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RC1: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Anonymous Referee #1, 01 Jul 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://acp.copernicus.org/preprints/acp-2022-395/acp-2022-395-RC1-supplement.pdf
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RC2: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Anonymous Referee #2, 18 Jul 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://acp.copernicus.org/preprints/acp-2022-395/acp-2022-395-RC2-supplement.pdf
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RC3: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Anonymous Referee #3, 19 Jul 2022
This paper uses the measurements of a hygrometer (WARAN) to infer the water contents of cirrus clouds and then based on the inferred cloud water content to quantify the radiative effects of the cirrus in the arctic region. As the authors correctly state, cirrus clouds are frequent in the arctic and potentially play an important role in influencing the radiative balance in the region. However, it is difficult to ascertain their radiative effect because the effect depends not only on the cloud properties, which are difficult to measure, but sensitively on various environment variables such as solar zenith angle and surface albedo which can affect both the magnitude and sign of the radiative effect. I am convinced the topic and objective of this work are both important and think works like this one that base on data to assess the radiative effect of cirrus clouds in the arctic are much needed and should be encouraged. I also find the paper generally well written, providing a clear documentation of the research steps and results.
Although the research is well motivated, I found several critical issues with this work. These include the quantification of the ice water content and the configuration of the environmental profiles for the radiative assessment. These deficiencies limit the usefulness of this work and should be addressed before the paper is considered for publication.
- IWC
Given that IWC is not directly measured but inferred in the total water measurements. The accuracy of the data are especially in need of validation. I found it unsatisfactory to only present a PDF summary (fig 1) of the WARAN vs FISH comparison, without explaining the different behaviour documented here compared to the literature (overestimation of WARAN) or analyzing the biases pattern, e.g., under moist vs. dry conditions, at different times of the day (solar angles), association with underlying surface types (albedo), and collocated dynamical fields.
Moreover, it seems the authors completely ignored the possibility of ice supersaturation in inferring the ice content from the total water measurement. Given how common the UTLS air is found to be in a supersaturated state and how the ice and supersaturated air are intrinsically related in influencing the radiation fields (e.g., Tan et al. 2016, https://doi.org/10.1002/2016GL071144), this is not acceptable. It is understood that independent data not available from the campaign, but at minimum this issue should be recognized and discussed, preferably using the statistics of the supersaturation or its relation to environment conditions obtained from other campaigns. In this regard, it appears especially hand-wavy, and possibly wrong, to inflate the IWC by 5 times in the radiative assessment.
- Radiative assessment
The authors correctly recognize that the radiative assessment is sensitive to the environment conditions coexisting with the cirrus, such as the solar angle and surface albedo. However, it doesn't appear logic to me that they extensively use idealized (nominal) values of these parameters rather than best estimates of them from appropriate datasets. Generally speaking, we don’t need another set of sensitivity experiments to illustrate how complex the cirrus radiative effects are but are in great need of measurement data to nail down what exact effects are in the nature. The authors need to either provide convincing arguments as to how the sensitivity computations done here are new or useful (how it can be related to nature), or change their strategy and properly pair their cirrus data with the values of those parameters appropriate to the time and location in their assessment.
Also, these aspects of the assessment probably can be better documented or explained:
The configuration of the RT model, e.g., how many streams are used in the RT solver, how the scattering angles are discretized, … these aspects all affect the results. The sensitivity of cirrus effect to the solar zenith angle is not well explained in the current paper; unclear how the scattering angle effect (forward scattering) and light path effect respectively affect the result and which dominates.
Possibility of sub-cirrus cloud layers, which are often found in nature and are expected to strongly affect the assessment of the radiative impacts of cirrus.
Optical depth of the aerosol (haze) layer prescribed – how much does it affect the lower boundary reflectance, and how are the cirrus effect depends on this factor.
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RC4: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Anonymous Referee #4, 27 Jul 2022
General Comments:
The cloud radiative effect (CRE) of cirrus clouds tends to be strongest in the Polar Regions since cirrus cloud emissivity tends to be greater than the corresponding albedo, and longwave (LW) radiation tends to dominate over shortwave (SW) radiation in the Polar Regions. This gives Arctic cirrus a potentially elevated status in terms of radiative impact on climate. Moreover, cirrus clouds having visual optical depths τvis between 0.3 and 3.0 have the greatest frequency of occurrence (Hong and Liu, 2015, JClim), have a CRE representative of cirrus clouds overall (Hong and Liu, 2016, JClim), and appear to be most abundant in the Arctic during winter (DJF; Mitchell et al., 2018). Thus, the CRE of winter Arctic cirrus might be particularly strong, making the topic of this journal submission of interest.
However, this manuscript was written with a focus on SW radiation with LW radiation arguably secondary in importance. While the SW radiation is more interesting in many respects, the uniqueness of Arctic cirrus in terms of LW radiation should not be ignored. In the results section, it might be instructive to show net irradiance for these surface albedo (and cloudy vs. clear) conditions as a function of time over a 24 hour period. Relating TOA Fnet (same as CRE) to solar zenith angle is fine but this focus might detract from the fact that most of the time during Arctic winter the sun is not present and Fnet is determined only by LW radiation. A representative latitude (based on in situ sampling) could be selected for this. This would add perspective for those readers seeking a more representative understanding of Arctic cirrus radiative effects.
The paper is well written and organized and presents results that appear to be unique. After some minor revisions, it should be appropriate for publication in ACP.
Major Comments:
1. Figure 9: The results in Fig. 9 (especially 9a) appear to contradict the results in Fig. 17 of Hong and Liu (2015, J. Climate), where Fnet at the surface is comparable with TOA Fnet for the same τvis used here. Please attempt to explain this discrepancy.
2. Lines 352-354: There are evidently some errors in this sentence. The visible optical depths (τvis) for the Jan. and March case studies are 0.65 and 0.68, respectively (line 265) but here it says both τvis are identical. Moreover, τvis = 3 IWP/(ρi De), and multiplying the IWC profiles by a factor of 5 should also increase IWP by this factor, and thus increase τvis by a factor of 5. That being so, the 5-fold τvis stated for these two case studies should be 3.25 and 3.40 (not 2.94 and 2.85 as stated in the text).
3. Lines 379-380: Note this is due only to changes in SW radiation. Please provide an explanation to conceptually understand this. For example, is this due to the greater "effective" optical depth of the cirrus when incident reflected SW radiation enters cloud base at oblique angles?
4. Lines 382-384: But τvis is almost the same for both case studies (0.65 vs. 0.68). Are you sure that a 0.03 change in τvis can account for the shift in the snow albedo curves?
Technical Comments:
1. Line 29: trough => through?
2. Figure 9: Fig. 8 => Fig. 8a,b? -
RC5: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Anonymous Referee #4, 27 Jul 2022
Lines 103-104: Regarding the use of the saturation mixing ratio to estimate the gas phase water content (GWC), consider citing Kramer et al. (2009, ACP, Fig. 7; 2020, ACP, Figs. 6, 7 & 9) to defend this assumption (i.e., RHi ~ 100% inside cirrus clouds). That may be a better option than referencing Heller's PhD thesis. However, measurements in Kramer et al. (2009; 2020) are not representative of Arctic cirrus where homogeneous ice nucleation appears more prevalent (suggesting higher RHi); see Mitchell et al. (2018, ACP).
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AC1: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Andreas Marsing, 30 Sep 2022
Dear reviewers and dear editor,
We thank all reviewers for their careful assessment of the manuscript. The comments raised several important open questions and greatly helped in streamlining the overall analysis, presentation and findings of our study.
Attached you find part of our authors' answers to the reviews. The reason why this is not complete at this point is twofold: First, as we checked several results of the radiative transfer calculations using the DISORT solver instead of two-stream (used before), we originally did not notice much difference. However, in the last few days, we found that deviations are stronger and more prevalent than thought, leading us to redo all RT calculations. We would like to be consistent and careful here. This has been taking some time, especially to transfer the results to all figures and to adapt all text and answers. Second, just now we stepped into some technical issues due to maintenance work on our instute network, which renders access to all necessary files quite difficult.
Therefore, we would like to hand in the completed answers and the revised manuscript in the course of the next week. We hope and ask for your generous understanding to the delay. This has also been announced beforehand to the editor.
Yours sincerely,
Andreas Marsing, on behalf of all authors
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AC2: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Andreas Marsing, 08 Oct 2022
Dear reviewers and dear editor,
We appreciate your patience and hereby provide our final author comments. Our data from measurements and radiative transfer calculations will be made available shortly.
Yours sincerely,
Andreas Marsing, on behalf of all authors
Peer review completion










Interactive discussion
Status: closed
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RC1: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Anonymous Referee #1, 01 Jul 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://acp.copernicus.org/preprints/acp-2022-395/acp-2022-395-RC1-supplement.pdf
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RC2: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Anonymous Referee #2, 18 Jul 2022
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://acp.copernicus.org/preprints/acp-2022-395/acp-2022-395-RC2-supplement.pdf
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RC3: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Anonymous Referee #3, 19 Jul 2022
This paper uses the measurements of a hygrometer (WARAN) to infer the water contents of cirrus clouds and then based on the inferred cloud water content to quantify the radiative effects of the cirrus in the arctic region. As the authors correctly state, cirrus clouds are frequent in the arctic and potentially play an important role in influencing the radiative balance in the region. However, it is difficult to ascertain their radiative effect because the effect depends not only on the cloud properties, which are difficult to measure, but sensitively on various environment variables such as solar zenith angle and surface albedo which can affect both the magnitude and sign of the radiative effect. I am convinced the topic and objective of this work are both important and think works like this one that base on data to assess the radiative effect of cirrus clouds in the arctic are much needed and should be encouraged. I also find the paper generally well written, providing a clear documentation of the research steps and results.
Although the research is well motivated, I found several critical issues with this work. These include the quantification of the ice water content and the configuration of the environmental profiles for the radiative assessment. These deficiencies limit the usefulness of this work and should be addressed before the paper is considered for publication.
- IWC
Given that IWC is not directly measured but inferred in the total water measurements. The accuracy of the data are especially in need of validation. I found it unsatisfactory to only present a PDF summary (fig 1) of the WARAN vs FISH comparison, without explaining the different behaviour documented here compared to the literature (overestimation of WARAN) or analyzing the biases pattern, e.g., under moist vs. dry conditions, at different times of the day (solar angles), association with underlying surface types (albedo), and collocated dynamical fields.
Moreover, it seems the authors completely ignored the possibility of ice supersaturation in inferring the ice content from the total water measurement. Given how common the UTLS air is found to be in a supersaturated state and how the ice and supersaturated air are intrinsically related in influencing the radiation fields (e.g., Tan et al. 2016, https://doi.org/10.1002/2016GL071144), this is not acceptable. It is understood that independent data not available from the campaign, but at minimum this issue should be recognized and discussed, preferably using the statistics of the supersaturation or its relation to environment conditions obtained from other campaigns. In this regard, it appears especially hand-wavy, and possibly wrong, to inflate the IWC by 5 times in the radiative assessment.
- Radiative assessment
The authors correctly recognize that the radiative assessment is sensitive to the environment conditions coexisting with the cirrus, such as the solar angle and surface albedo. However, it doesn't appear logic to me that they extensively use idealized (nominal) values of these parameters rather than best estimates of them from appropriate datasets. Generally speaking, we don’t need another set of sensitivity experiments to illustrate how complex the cirrus radiative effects are but are in great need of measurement data to nail down what exact effects are in the nature. The authors need to either provide convincing arguments as to how the sensitivity computations done here are new or useful (how it can be related to nature), or change their strategy and properly pair their cirrus data with the values of those parameters appropriate to the time and location in their assessment.
Also, these aspects of the assessment probably can be better documented or explained:
The configuration of the RT model, e.g., how many streams are used in the RT solver, how the scattering angles are discretized, … these aspects all affect the results. The sensitivity of cirrus effect to the solar zenith angle is not well explained in the current paper; unclear how the scattering angle effect (forward scattering) and light path effect respectively affect the result and which dominates.
Possibility of sub-cirrus cloud layers, which are often found in nature and are expected to strongly affect the assessment of the radiative impacts of cirrus.
Optical depth of the aerosol (haze) layer prescribed – how much does it affect the lower boundary reflectance, and how are the cirrus effect depends on this factor.
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RC4: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Anonymous Referee #4, 27 Jul 2022
General Comments:
The cloud radiative effect (CRE) of cirrus clouds tends to be strongest in the Polar Regions since cirrus cloud emissivity tends to be greater than the corresponding albedo, and longwave (LW) radiation tends to dominate over shortwave (SW) radiation in the Polar Regions. This gives Arctic cirrus a potentially elevated status in terms of radiative impact on climate. Moreover, cirrus clouds having visual optical depths τvis between 0.3 and 3.0 have the greatest frequency of occurrence (Hong and Liu, 2015, JClim), have a CRE representative of cirrus clouds overall (Hong and Liu, 2016, JClim), and appear to be most abundant in the Arctic during winter (DJF; Mitchell et al., 2018). Thus, the CRE of winter Arctic cirrus might be particularly strong, making the topic of this journal submission of interest.
However, this manuscript was written with a focus on SW radiation with LW radiation arguably secondary in importance. While the SW radiation is more interesting in many respects, the uniqueness of Arctic cirrus in terms of LW radiation should not be ignored. In the results section, it might be instructive to show net irradiance for these surface albedo (and cloudy vs. clear) conditions as a function of time over a 24 hour period. Relating TOA Fnet (same as CRE) to solar zenith angle is fine but this focus might detract from the fact that most of the time during Arctic winter the sun is not present and Fnet is determined only by LW radiation. A representative latitude (based on in situ sampling) could be selected for this. This would add perspective for those readers seeking a more representative understanding of Arctic cirrus radiative effects.
The paper is well written and organized and presents results that appear to be unique. After some minor revisions, it should be appropriate for publication in ACP.
Major Comments:
1. Figure 9: The results in Fig. 9 (especially 9a) appear to contradict the results in Fig. 17 of Hong and Liu (2015, J. Climate), where Fnet at the surface is comparable with TOA Fnet for the same τvis used here. Please attempt to explain this discrepancy.
2. Lines 352-354: There are evidently some errors in this sentence. The visible optical depths (τvis) for the Jan. and March case studies are 0.65 and 0.68, respectively (line 265) but here it says both τvis are identical. Moreover, τvis = 3 IWP/(ρi De), and multiplying the IWC profiles by a factor of 5 should also increase IWP by this factor, and thus increase τvis by a factor of 5. That being so, the 5-fold τvis stated for these two case studies should be 3.25 and 3.40 (not 2.94 and 2.85 as stated in the text).
3. Lines 379-380: Note this is due only to changes in SW radiation. Please provide an explanation to conceptually understand this. For example, is this due to the greater "effective" optical depth of the cirrus when incident reflected SW radiation enters cloud base at oblique angles?
4. Lines 382-384: But τvis is almost the same for both case studies (0.65 vs. 0.68). Are you sure that a 0.03 change in τvis can account for the shift in the snow albedo curves?
Technical Comments:
1. Line 29: trough => through?
2. Figure 9: Fig. 8 => Fig. 8a,b? -
RC5: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Anonymous Referee #4, 27 Jul 2022
Lines 103-104: Regarding the use of the saturation mixing ratio to estimate the gas phase water content (GWC), consider citing Kramer et al. (2009, ACP, Fig. 7; 2020, ACP, Figs. 6, 7 & 9) to defend this assumption (i.e., RHi ~ 100% inside cirrus clouds). That may be a better option than referencing Heller's PhD thesis. However, measurements in Kramer et al. (2009; 2020) are not representative of Arctic cirrus where homogeneous ice nucleation appears more prevalent (suggesting higher RHi); see Mitchell et al. (2018, ACP).
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AC1: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Andreas Marsing, 30 Sep 2022
Dear reviewers and dear editor,
We thank all reviewers for their careful assessment of the manuscript. The comments raised several important open questions and greatly helped in streamlining the overall analysis, presentation and findings of our study.
Attached you find part of our authors' answers to the reviews. The reason why this is not complete at this point is twofold: First, as we checked several results of the radiative transfer calculations using the DISORT solver instead of two-stream (used before), we originally did not notice much difference. However, in the last few days, we found that deviations are stronger and more prevalent than thought, leading us to redo all RT calculations. We would like to be consistent and careful here. This has been taking some time, especially to transfer the results to all figures and to adapt all text and answers. Second, just now we stepped into some technical issues due to maintenance work on our instute network, which renders access to all necessary files quite difficult.
Therefore, we would like to hand in the completed answers and the revised manuscript in the course of the next week. We hope and ask for your generous understanding to the delay. This has also been announced beforehand to the editor.
Yours sincerely,
Andreas Marsing, on behalf of all authors
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AC2: 'Comment on acp-2022-395', Andreas Marsing, 08 Oct 2022
Dear reviewers and dear editor,
We appreciate your patience and hereby provide our final author comments. Our data from measurements and radiative transfer calculations will be made available shortly.
Yours sincerely,
Andreas Marsing, on behalf of all authors
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